Mobile Ed Courses: Available, Partially Available, and Unavailable

Rick Ausdahl
Rick Ausdahl Member Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭
edited November 20 in English Forum

When I log into my Faithlife Connect Account and select "Courses", the courses displayed are split into three categories: Available (33 plans), Partially Available (2 plans), and Unavailable (169 plans).

I have the Faithlife Connect Essentials plan.  It was my understanding that members of this plan could chose any two individual Mobile Ed courses from the entire range of courses within Mobile Ed--no exclusions.  (The only caveat being that members could not select bundled offerings, but could select any course that was offered individually, even if the course is also offered as part of a bundle.)

So what are we supposed to make of these three categories under which the courses are grouped?

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  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 15,972

    what are we supposed to make of these three categories under which the courses are grouped?

    Those are your current courses - available are those you have a license for, not available the others (partly available: bundles where you have licenses for a part of). This has nothing to do with your selection of courses  

    EDIT: what you see when launching the courses app from there is the same you would see in the courses tool on your desktop app. In order to select courses from your subscription program, you shouldn't launch the app, but scroll down to the very bottom of the site, where it says "choose your courses" 

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile

  • Rick Ausdahl
    Rick Ausdahl Member Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭

    NB.Mick said:

    what are we supposed to make of these three categories under which the courses are grouped?

    Those are your current courses - available are those you have a license for, not available the others (partly available: bundles where you have licenses for a part of). This has nothing to do with your selection of courses  

    EDIT: what you see when launching the courses app from there is the same you would see in the courses tool on your desktop app. In order to select courses from your subscription program, you shouldn't launch the app, but scroll down to the very bottom of the site, where it says "choose your courses" 

    Thanks, NB!

    I haven't found an option that reads "choose your courses", but I have found one that reads "See available courses".  I found that link at the bottom of the courses web page (https://connect.faithlife.com/courses), prior to selecting the option to "Launch apps".  Selecting the link brings up a list of 193 ME courses, including those I already own.  Is this the link to which you are referring?

    NOTE:  A prior occurrence of the link also occurs near the top of the web page in the section that reads "Self-paced learning--Courses that move with you".

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    “Available” means courses that you own or rent, and have most (all?) of the reading material.

    “Partly available” means you own or rent them, but don’t have much of the reading material.

    “Unavailable” means you don’t have a licence to the course.

    To get use of a ANY course, just find it in the store and “buy” it using the supplied coupon code. It will appear free at the Checkout. The “purchased” licence will expire in the future, of course. 

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  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Administrator, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,395

    “Available” means courses that you own or rent, and have most (all?) of the reading material.

    “Partly available” means you own or rent them, but don’t have much of the reading material.

    “Unavailable” means you don’t have a licence to the course.

    "Available" means that you have all of the required resources for a course.

    "Partly available" means that you have some of the required resources for a course.

    "Unavailable" means you have none of the required resources for a course.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    "Available" means that you have all of the required resources for a course.

    "Partly available" means that you have some of the required resources for a course.

    "Unavailable" means you have none of the required resources for a course.

    Sorry. I had to do that from memory because the Courses tool is currently broken for me (I can only see started and completed courses — everything else is missing). It's been like that for a little while. Any suggestions while you're here?

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  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Administrator, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,395

    Sorry. I had to do that from memory because the Courses tool is currently broken for me (I can only see started and completed courses — everything else is missing). It's been like that for a little while. Any suggestions while you're here?

    My best guess would be that there's some kind of problem with retrieving the course metadata from the server. A log file would help.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    My best guess would be that there's some kind of problem with retrieving the course metadata from the server. A log file would help.

    There's nothing diagnostic in the logs that I can see. I ran Fiddler, but the Courses Tool doesn't even seem to attempt to connect to the server.

    5857.Logos.log

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  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Administrator, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,395

    This looks pertinent:

    2018-04-05 18:12:51.5396 34 Warn GuidedLearningTemplateClient The service timed out.
    2018-04-05 18:12:51.5436 34 Error GuidedLearningManager Couldn't update templates.

    It should be trying to connect to https://guidedlearningapi.faithlife.com/v1/

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    This looks pertinent:

    2018-04-05 18:12:51.5396 34 Warn GuidedLearningTemplateClient The service timed out.
    2018-04-05 18:12:51.5436 34 Error GuidedLearningManager Couldn't update templates.

    It should be trying to connect to https://guidedlearningapi.faithlife.com/v1/

    Thanks. It looks like that happens at startup, rather than when I open the tool, so I hadn't made the connection to Courses.

    Fiddler tells me that https://guidedlearningapi.faithlife.com/v1/templates?limit=100 returns a body of 17,675,813 bytes, and returned a 200 OK response. It obviously took a while to download 17Mb, though — just over 110 seconds.

    The resulting body was valid JSON, so I've no reason to think something's gone wrong with the download. But I kept a copy of the data, which I can upload if you want.

    ACTUAL PERFORMANCE
    --------------
    ClientConnected: 18:32:59.224
    ClientBeginRequest: 18:32:59.778
    GotRequestHeaders: 18:32:59.778
    ClientDoneRequest: 18:32:59.778
    Determine Gateway: 0ms
    DNS Lookup: 0ms
    TCP/IP Connect: 0ms
    HTTPS Handshake: 0ms
    ServerConnected: 18:32:59.396
    FiddlerBeginRequest: 18:32:59.778
    ServerGotRequest: 18:32:59.778
    ServerBeginResponse: 18:33:01.619
    GotResponseHeaders: 18:33:01.619
    ServerDoneResponse: 18:34:49.776
    ClientBeginResponse: 18:34:49.782
    ClientDoneResponse: 18:34:49.782
    Overall Elapsed: 0:01:50.004

    PS — the response isn't gzipped (and the client didn't request it). That would have made a huge difference.

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  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 15,972

    “Available” means courses that you own or rent, and have most (all?) of the reading material.

    “Partly available” means you own or rent them, but don’t have much of the reading material.

    “Unavailable” means you don’t have a licence to the course.

    "Available" means that you have all of the required resources for a course.

    "Partly available" means that you have some of the required resources for a course.

    "Unavailable" means you have none of the required resources for a course.

    You are surely right, but as I understand (and this hopefully clears this up for the OP), in case of Mobile.Ed courses, typically the only "required resource" for a course is the course textbook, all the recommended reading is listed as "suggested" only, which means this matches up with the license to the course. Those are the ones in focus here.

    However it makes sense to memorize your definition, as it also works for the "read-a-book" courses which are available when one owns the respective resource.

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile

  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Administrator, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,395

    Fiddler tells me that https://guidedlearningapi.faithlife.com/v1/templates?limit=100 returns a body of 17,675,813 bytes, and returned a 200 OK response. It obviously took a while to download 17Mb, though — just over 110 seconds.

    Thanks, Mark. I've created a case for this. Unfortunately, I don't have a suggestion at the moment to get this working for you.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Administrator, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,395

    NB.Mick said:

    You are surely right, but as I understand (and this hopefully clears this up for the OP), in case of Mobile.Ed courses, typically the only "required resource" for a course is the course textbook, all the recommended reading is listed as "suggested" only, which means this matches up with the license to the course. Those are the ones in focus here.

    However it makes sense to memorize your definition, as it also works for the "read-a-book" courses which are available when one owns the respective resource.

    Quite correct.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Philana R. Crouch
    Philana R. Crouch Member, Logos Employee Posts: 4,597

    "Available" means that you have all of the required resources for a course.

    "Partly available" means that you have some of the required resources for a course.

    "Unavailable" means you have none of the required resources for a course.

    Sorry. I had to do that from memory because the Courses tool is currently broken for me (I can only see started and completed courses — everything else is missing). It's been like that for a little while. Any suggestions while you're here?

    This has been fixed in 8.4.