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Mark Nolette | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 19 2018 2:07 AM

Chris Gardner:

Thanks to YouTube I found the way to fix it. I really hope this doesn't happen every time. 

This happened to me only once, after I originally set it up. Let's hope it will be the same for you!  

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Chris Gardner | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 24 2018 11:44 AM

Thanks and another question:

You guys are awesome, thanks so much for helping me with this so far.  I am loving the device and the fact that I can do Logos with it.  

One big question I have though.  I have used iOS for a long time, and on there I go into accessibility options and set it up to where I can swipe with 2 fingers and it reads the book that I am reading in Logos or Kindle.  I drive a lot and would love the ability to do that if that even exists on an  android or on this device.  

If anyone has the answer to that it would help me a lot.  Thanks guys, this community is pretty awesome and I appreciate you guys helping out always. 

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Bill Anderson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 24 2018 12:17 PM

The speak screen function in iOS is system wide. My understanding is that Android does not have similar functionality. It's one of the reasons I stick with iOS.

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Chris Gardner | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 24 2018 12:28 PM

Me too, that is all except for this new e ink device. :) Thanks again

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Chris Lane | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 29 2018 7:43 PM

Mark, just wanted to express my gratitude for your taking the time to introduce us to these type of readers. I was never really satisfied with the old import to Kindle "solution" but have always wanted my Logos on an e-ink device. I never knew these existed until today and, needless to say, I'm quite excited by what I'm seeing. Thanks again.

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Mark Nolette | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 30 2018 4:04 AM

You're welcome!

In that spirit, let me point out a couple more E-Ink devices which could work well with the Logos Android app. You can find them here. One is the Onyx Boox Nova, similar to the Likebook Mars. Another is the Onyx Boox Poke Pro - with a six inch display, and so a little smaller, and cheaper, than the Nova or Mars.  All three run Android 6.0.  

The Nova has no microSD card slot, but has 32 gb of internal storage and allows you to choose a warmer front light. The Mars has an sd card slot but only 16 gb of internal storage. The Poke Pro has 16 gb of internal storage. Not sure about the sd card slot.  

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Chris Lane | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 1 2018 1:33 PM

Thanks for that site, Mark. It's nice to see all of the options side-by-side in one place. I'm wondering if you would have any input to the following three questions:

  1. Although I am drawn to the price of the Poke, I can't help but wonder the difference that the Mars' octa-core processor and extra GB of RAM would make in the total experience. If I'm not mistaken, it sounds like you had experience with a quad-core device prior to your Mars. I'm not sure how your prior device and the Mars compared to one another in terms of RAM capacity. Did you notice any difference between them in performance?
  2. I'm also curious if the size of one's library would affect the performance of these devices (I'm not sure how it stacks up to others, I have nearly 4,000 books in my library).
  3. Should there be any worry about storage capacity? All I can imagine having on my device would be my Kindle, Logos, Accordance apps + maybe a few PDFs. 16-32 GB just sounds like such a small amount. Should it be a concern?

Thanks again, Mark. 

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 1 2018 2:13 PM

I've been using the Mars now for about two months. I can't say much about the Poke, but let me answer these questions from my point of having some experience with the Mars.

Chris Lane:

  1. Although I am drawn to the price of the Poke, I can't help but wonder the difference that the Mars' octa-core processor and extra GB of RAM would make in the total experience. If I'm not mistaken, it sounds like you had experience with a quad-core device prior to your Mars. I'm not sure how your prior device and the Mars compared to one another in terms of RAM capacity. Did you notice any difference between them in performance?

Prior to the Mars, I had an 800 MHz single core device with 256 MB of RAM and Android 2.3. Compared to that, performance of the Mars is excellent. If you just run your reading apps, it's really fast and smooth.

I've not tried installing an email client, half a dozen messengers, and social media apps, all of which run permanently in the background. With these specifications, I suspect it will have an impact on performance. The specs are that of an e-reader, not of a fully fledged tablet.

Chris Lane:

  1. I'm also curious if the size of one's library would affect the performance of these devices (I'm not sure how it stacks up to others, I have nearly 4,000 books in my library).

Resources on the internal memory have no impact on performance.

If you copy thousands of files onto SD, and the card needs to initialize, it takes about a minute for the device to become usable. This seems to be the case only after a full shutdown and cold boot.

Chris Lane:

  1. Should there be any worry about storage capacity? All I can imagine having on my device would be my Kindle, Logos, Accordance apps + maybe a few PDFs. 16-32 GB just sounds like such a small amount. Should it be a concern?

That is the precise reason why I went for the Mars, as it has the SD slot, and can format SD cards as internal storage. My previous device had 32 GB of internal memory, which was very small.

Now I have 32 GB of internal memory plus 128 GB from SD, and multiple apps, a library of 6000 books, the audio versions of all my mobile ed courses, and a few epubs fit all on the device, and I still have about half of the memory available.

Of course the Mars is not cheap. However, I'm sure it will last about 5 years before FL (and Google) eventually end Android 6.0 support, so it's more like a long term investment for me.

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Mark Nolette | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 1 2018 2:18 PM

1) I'd suggest that you go for the faster processor and the extra RAM in either the Mars or the Nova. You will see an improvement in overall performance. E-Ink is a little slower than LCD displays by its nature, but the extra speed helps.  The other consideration is display size. Is a six inch display enough for you, or would something larger work better? 

2) I don't download all my Logos resources to my E-Ink devices, but that's your call. I have about 800 resources on mine, and some people would say that even that is too much. I have all the resources I want for homily prep, and books i plan to read.  I see no impact on performance.

3) If you want all those resources on your device, then the Mars with its sd card slot might be the way to go. As Jan said, you can activate adoptable storage, which uses your microSD card as your internal storage. So, you could easily have 128 GB there. One thing to be aware of: if you activate adoptable storage on the Mars, firmware updates will NOT install.  I've tried.  You have to load it all back to internal storage to install updates. Boyue hasn't fixed this yet.  This is one reason why I'd recommend that people also look at the Nova. No sd card slot, but 32 gb of internal storage. 

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Mark Nolette | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 1 2018 2:23 PM

Of course, if you like the Mars as is, then firmware updates might not matter...

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Mark Nolette | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 1 2018 2:37 PM

If saving money is crucial to you, then you may want to look at the Poke. Otherwise, I think you'd be much happier with the Mars or the Nova. Larger screen, better performance, more storage. The Mars is a little cheaper than the Nova and has the sd card slot. Big pluses for the Mars.  The Nova has no sd card slot, but looks to have more customization options. I think the mars works best for your intended uses.  

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 1 2018 3:08 PM

Mark Nolette:
One thing to be aware of: if you activate adoptable storage on the Mars, firmware updates will NOT install.  I've tried.  You have to load it all back to internal storage to install updates.

No!! Just download the update to memory, and install manually. (Seems like you have wasted massive effort for nothing…)

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Mark Nolette | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 1 2018 3:14 PM

Jan Krohn:

Mark Nolette:
One thing to be aware of: if you activate adoptable storage on the Mars, firmware updates will NOT install.  I've tried.  You have to load it all back to internal storage to install updates.

No!! Just download the update to memory, and install manually. (Seems like you have wasted massive effort for nothing…)

I let the update download and install by the usual process - more than once - and the installation failed every time. I’ll try manually and experiment next time. If it works, you will have saved me a lot of effort!

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Robert Gore | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 5 2018 5:25 PM

Can you elaborate on how you are able to set up the reading by swipe? I can navigate to accessibility options and assume I go to voice over, but I got lost at that point. 

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Al Dobko | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 13 2018 7:36 AM

Has anyone used Microsoft Word with Logos on the Likebook Mars? Copy, paste, edit, etc.?

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Chris Eller | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 15 2018 10:39 AM

This has been a fun (and probably costly) form to read. :) It sounds like everyone is leaning towards the Mars over the Nova. 

A couple of questions, is it possible to highlight books in the Logos app with the Mars? It doesn’t look like it has a stylus that comes with it. Does it work with a stylus?

For reference, I’m looking at this device: https://www.amazon.com/Likebook-Mars-Reader-Processor,Adjustable-Audible/dp/B07KM2BDPP/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1544898113&sr=8-1&keywords=likebook+mars+ereader

Thanks!

Chris

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Mark Nolette | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 15 2018 10:47 AM

Chris Eller:

This has been a fun (and probably costly) form to read. :) It sounds like everyone is leaning towards the Mars over the Nova. 

A couple of questions, is it possible to highlight books in the Logos app with the Mars? It doesn’t look like it has a stylus that comes with it. Does it work with a stylus?

For reference, I’m looking at this device: https://www.amazon.com/Likebook-Mars-Reader-Processor,Adjustable-Audible/dp/B07KM2BDPP/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1544898113&sr=8-1&keywords=likebook+mars+ereader

Thanks!

Chris

I haven't tried highlighting in Logos, but it works fine in other apps like Moon Reader using my finger.

Onyx is supposed to come out with a second Nova version that includes a stylus. Unfortunately, it won't have a frontlight.

Having a little extra money is dangerous for me! I bought the Nova, and now I'm trying to decide which one I'll keep. The Nova's performance is a little better than that of the Mars, and I like the light a little better. On the other hand, the Nova has no microSD card slot, and Play Store is a little more glitchy with the Nova. I'll sell whichever one I decide not to keep... but no final decision yet!  

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Al Dobko | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 20 2018 1:32 PM

Any chance you could post a screen shot of a Logos interlinear on the Mars?

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 20 2018 3:31 PM

No idea how to take screenshots without the required buttons, but I took a photo.

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Al Dobko | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 20 2018 5:28 PM
That’s perfect thank you!
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