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Larry Craig | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, May 16 2018 6:37 PM

I want to do a concordance of two chapters of the Bible and then compare the results, primarily seeing the common lemmas.

I also tried to find a way to save my results but couldn't.

I looked for help but figured this was the fastest way to find it.

Thank you

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 17 2018 1:38 AM

Larry Craig:
I want to do a concordance of two chapters of the Bible and then compare the results, primarily seeing the common lemmas.

You can have two separate instances of the Concordance open - one looking at one chapter and the other at the other. Would this give you what you want?

Larry Craig:
I also tried to find a way to save my results but couldn't.

You can export to a CSV file but how useful this will be depends on what you are hoping to achieve

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 17 2018 3:48 AM

Larry Craig:
I want to do a concordance of two chapters of the Bible and then compare the results, primarily seeing the common lemmas.

You'd probably be better off using two Word Lists, then merging them to find the common lemmas. If you're not sure how to use Word Lists, read the help file, or ask more questions here.

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Larry Craig | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 17 2018 10:07 AM

I'm getting nowhere on this.  I find the word list descriptions unhelpful.  I hear a lot of jargon, e.g. CVS, which means nothing to me.  I created a concordance for Psalm 1 in Hebrew but see no way to save it.  I have no idea what's going on

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James Chandler | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 17 2018 11:05 AM

csv = Comma Separated values. It's a file format.

If you go into Print/Export. You will see in the bottom right EXPORT:

It might say Save as file:

Spreadsheet (Excel, etc.)

If you click on that it will give you the option to save as Concordance.xml or Concordance.csv

I hope this helps.

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Larry Craig | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 17 2018 11:09 AM

Thank you

I learned something new, but I am a long way from being able to do anything with all this.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 17 2018 12:02 PM

Larry

As Mark said you’re probably better off using Word Lists.

Try clicking the link in his reply and see if the information there helps

Graham

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Larry Craig | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 17 2018 2:38 PM

I did, and it wasn't helpful.  I'm going to see if I can just export them to Excel.  I use Excel a lot, and maybe that will work.

Thanks again.  I appreciate it.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 17 2018 3:46 PM

Larry Craig:
I did, and it wasn't helpful.  I'm going to see if I can just export them to Excel.  I use Excel a lot, and maybe that will work.

The more specific you can be, the easier it will be for us to help you. Word lists are the easiest way to compare the lemmas in two chapters. Here are step-by-step instructions (I'll be comparing Jonah 1 and Jonah 2):

  • Click on Documents and choose Word List.
  • Change the document title to something relevant (e.g. "Jonah 1").
  • Click on Add and:
    • Make sure the Bible version is correct (probably best to use original language)
    • In the Reference box, type in the first chapter you want to compare and press Enter.
  • Repeat all these steps for the other chapter.
  • In one of the word lists, click on Merge, then
    • Choose the other word list from the left-hand-side
    • Click on Intersection on the right-hand-side.
  • You will then get a new word list of lemmas that appear in both chapters.
  • If you wish, you can sort the lists by clicking on the column headings.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 17 2018 3:48 PM

Larry Craig:
I did, and it wasn't helpful.  I'm going to see if I can just export them to Excel. 

(1) The Word List Help will tell you to use the Add menu to create a Word List e.g. type 1 John 1 into the Reference box. Then create another Word List for 1 John 2.

(2)  From your Word List for 1 John 1, click on Merge and select the 1 John 2 List 

(3) Click Intersection to get another Word List with lemmas that are in both 1 John 1 and 1 John 2.

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Larry Craig | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 17 2018 4:31 PM

Thank you for trying to help me.

Everything seemed to be going right, until iI hit intersection.  A new list opened up but remained blank.  t said to drag a column up, but that didn't change anything.

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Larry Craig | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 17 2018 4:32 PM

Thanks, Davie

I did all that,and the new list remains blank.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 17 2018 5:44 PM

Larry Craig:

Thanks, Davie

I did all that,and the new list remains blank.

What passages/chapters were you comparing?

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Larry Craig | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 17 2018 5:49 PM

Psalm 1 and Psalm 2

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 18 2018 2:58 PM

Larry Craig:

Psalm 1 and Psalm 2

Make sure you have a Word List for Psalm 1 and another Word List for Psalm 2, because you should have an Intersection with lemmas.

Check that both Word Lists come from the same bible e.g.

Here I've added lemmas from LHB (Lexham Hebrew Bible). You could also get lemmas from LES (Lexham English Septuagint) if you wanted Greek lemmas.

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Larry Craig | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 18 2018 3:07 PM

I was going to try it again.  Too many other things got my attention.

Thank you.

I was going to say.  I was looking at some old files I saved, in one you mentioned about changing Bible titles.  I have wanted to do that for a long time, investigated it, and now I am in a mad rush to change all my commentaries.  In my passage guide, I want authors and series title with every book.  I"m working on it. 

Thanks again.

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