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Robert Bigouette | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Aug 30 2018 5:51 AM

The more and more I use it, the more and more I just wish it would act like the web app. I get frustrated all the panels, etc. I find myself swiping back and forth, frustrating trying to highlight to copy and paste (the window moves when trying to move cursor), and a resource I just opened is 5 windows away instead of right where I need to compare with what I am working on. Also, when going back and forth on panels sometimes I cant select a word on the panel till I leave the app and come back. Anyway, if there is a different place to whine, let me know where to send it.  I guess I wouldn’t complain if the web version worked well on my iPad but it doesnt. 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 30 2018 6:38 AM

Robert Bigouette:
a resource I just opened is 5 windows away instead of right where I need to compare with what I am working on

Press, hold, drag to desired location. 

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Robert Bigouette | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 30 2018 7:00 AM

Yea, that’s not good GUI design. Their web app is much better in function. And more consistent with desktop app. Plus i cant drag that into the split window and view simultaneously. 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 30 2018 7:08 AM

Robert Bigouette:
Their web app is much better in function. And more consistent with desktop app.

The mobile app isn't intended to have the same function. It is a reader app. A different tool for a different function. 

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Scot Wright | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 30 2018 10:46 AM

JT (alabama24):
The mobile app isn't intended to have the same function. It is a reader app. A different tool for a different function. 

Your absolutely right JT but I think we sometimes expect the mobile app to mirror the desktop. I travel a lot and there are times when I wish I had some of the same functionality that is on my desktop. When you're in Africa and the internet is often not available, the Logos internet app then is useless. When preparing a message out in the bush to have something like the Sermon Guide or the Sermon builder available would be a game changer for me.

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Reuben Helmuth | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 30 2018 12:10 PM

Robert Bigouette:
Yea, that’s not good GUI design.

If you're complaining about tabs in mobile, please ask your wife to slap you...really hard!😜BTW, the latest beta (available by joining the Notes Tool Beta test group) includes layouts (saved/named arrangments of tabs), so the UX is improving!

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 31 2018 4:05 AM

Scot Wright:
When preparing a message out in the bush to have something like the Sermon Guide or the Sermon builder available would be a game changer for me

I certainly understand! Yes Unfortunately, that isn't realistic anytime soon. 

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 31 2018 7:16 AM
JT (alabama24):

Scot Wright:
When preparing a message out in the bush to have something like the Sermon Guide or the Sermon builder available would be a game changer for me

I certainly understand! Yes Unfortunately, that isn't realistic anytime soon. 

But the new MacBook Air is due out soon 12th September? That will be able to run the desktop version and if prep in the bush is important then the extra weight might be acceptable.
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William McFarland | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 31 2018 1:08 PM

There was a post a while ago that the new Surface Go was able to run the desktop version of Logos. Again, if you need the sermon editor in the bush.

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Scot Wright | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 31 2018 4:04 PM

I've done a variety of sermons in very remote places  which certainly don't require the convenience of the Logos desktop. Yet if these Mac and PC versions coming out have that kind of power, it certainly could be a helpful feature in organizing and gathering one's thoughts.  Smile

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Robert Bigouette | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 5 2018 1:19 PM

I cant see how the Surface Go could, it might be strong enough but don’t think has the storage. The 128bg was 549 and didn’t see bigger storage. Is that enough to even run it?

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 5 2018 3:38 PM

Robert Bigouette:
The 128bg was 549 and didn’t see bigger storage. Is that enough to even run it?

I would shy away from that small of storage, but... If you don't have a huge library, stay away from downloading courses, and don't use the computer for much of anything else... it could work. 

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William McFarland | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 6 2018 5:51 AM

JT (alabama24):
Robert Bigouette:
The 128bg was 549 and didn’t see bigger storage. Is that enough to even run it?

You can also add a large capacity microSD card to expand the storage. An extra 128 GB card would be about $40. You would want to ensure you get a fast card though. There is a thread in the forums for the Logos and the Surface Go you might be interested in.

https://community.logos.com/forums/t/171444.aspx

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Robert Bigouette | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 6 2018 9:43 AM

Or they could design the mobile app well and eliminate the need to spend another 800$ after cards cables, etc, to be able to effectively use a desktop app in mobile fashion? 

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 10 2018 9:32 AM

William McFarland:

JT (alabama24):
Robert Bigouette:
The 128bg was 549 and didn’t see bigger storage. Is that enough to even run it?

You can also add a large capacity microSD card to expand the storage. An extra 128 GB card would be about $40. You would want to ensure you get a fast card though. There is a thread in the forums for the Logos and the Surface Go you might be interested in.

https://community.logos.com/forums/t/171444.aspx

Running Logos off an SD card is a nightmare. Not a good solution because it is so slow indexing and if you have to index much (new books or after updates) it will make you pull your hair out. I tried that when I was reviewing small capacity windows machines for a tech blog I used to write for. 

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Michael Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 11 2018 3:05 PM

I would be happy if the search feature on the ios app worked. It doesn't.  

Or I guess I should say the "results" of the search does not work.  Click on any search result, and you have no idea what is going to open up.

That is not satisfactory, no matter what the purpose of the app is.

"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley

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Robert Bigouette | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 11 2018 8:16 PM

Michael Childs:

I would be happy if the search feature on the ios app worked. It doesn't.  

Or I guess I should say the "results" of the search does not work.  Click on any search result, and you have no idea what is going to open up.

That is not satisfactory, no matter what the purpose of the app is.

Amen brother! If the app just worked what an incredible resource it would be! Right now its a glorified kindle app that I read from mostly.

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Robert Bigouette | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 11 2018 8:18 PM

Kevin A. Purcell:

Running Logos off an SD card is a nightmare. Not a good solution because it is so slow indexing and if you have to index much (new books or after updates) it will make you pull your hair out. I tried that when I was reviewing small capacity windows machines for a tech blog I used to write for. 

Yea, I already spent money on this iPad, not gonna blow half again for something that "might" work, for an app that seems to be gaining bloat without function. I used to brag on Logos even with its quirks. But many free apps work better. Something ain't right there. 

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 12 2018 5:18 AM

Robert Bigouette:
I used to brag on Logos even with its quirks. But many free apps work better. Something ain't right there. 

First, to be clear, the iOS app is free. I understand that it's not that useful unless you already own a library.

Second, I wonder what other truly free apps work better than Logos for iOS. There are other great apps that work really well, but like the Logos app, require you already own a decent library that's not free.

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Robert Bigouette | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 12 2018 5:26 AM

Kevin A. Purcell:

Robert Bigouette:
I used to brag on Logos even with its quirks. But many free apps work better. Something ain't right there. 

First, to be clear, the iOS app is free. I understand that it's not that useful unless you already own a library.

Second, I wonder what other truly free apps work better than Logos for iOS. There are other great apps that work really well, but like the Logos app, require you already own a decent library that's not free.

The Olive tree bible app and YouVersion both work better in terms of search and verse copy. Though youversion got weird trying to throw a link in there all the time. But their search function remembers last search and basic search terms. I find myself goiNg there more.

Since I purchased Logos and spent quite a bit mind you for many resources that are “open source” (but I know they did the work to get them into the system), I dont look at this app as “free” to myself, but an extension of the Logos app. And olive tree which as you said to use on level we do with logos also requires investment, works very very well.

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