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Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Aug 30 2018 11:25 AM

Hi All,

We’ve just posted 9 volumes of Francis Schaeffer books. For a number of reasons, they will be different resources than what was contained in the Complete Works of Francis Schaeffer that we used to sell. Some of the books that are about to be posted are new editions, others are the same as those in the Complete Works. Here’s how they break down:

Three of the nine books are almost identical to the editions we currently have:
* The Great Evangelical Disaster
* Whatever Happened to the Human Race?
* A Christian Manifesto

Four of the nine are new editions or have added content:
* Joshua and the Flow of Biblical History
* No Little People
* Death in the City
* How Should We Then Live?

Two of the nine are resources we’ve never produced before:
* The Letters of Francis A. Schaeffer
* The Finished Work of Christ

In order to avoid charging you twice for the same book, we’ll be selling the resources in four different collections:

1. Three books that are the same editions: https://www.logos.com/product/156623/francis-schaeffer-christians-and-culture-collection

2. Four books that are new editions: https://www.logos.com/product/156624/francis-schaeffer-bible-and-culture-collection

3. Two books that are completely new to the platform: https://www.logos.com/product/156625/francis-schaeffer-letters-and-early-studies-collection

4. All 9 books: https://www.logos.com/product/156626/francis-schaeffer-collected-writings-collection

If you own the Complete Works of Francis Schaeffer resource, do not pre-order the first collection. These three books will be automatically unlocked to your account when the product ships.

If you want the new editions or the new books, you’ll need to place a pre-order for the second and third collections separately.

Let me know if you have any questions.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 30 2018 2:45 PM

Hi Ben

Thanks for this clear statement of what is happening

Graham

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Bill Shewmaker | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 30 2018 5:17 PM

Thank you Ben and Faithlife. These will be great additions to my Schaeffer collection. 

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Glenn Crouch | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 30 2018 5:22 PM

Bill Shewmaker:

Thank you Ben and Faithlife. These will be great additions to my Schaeffer collection. 

Agreed!

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SteveHD | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 30 2018 5:36 PM

Yes

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Vincent Chia | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 30 2018 5:55 PM

Just to confirm, I do own the "Complete Works of Francis Schaeffer resource." Was this downloaded as ONE RESOURCE? I got it as a license transfer.

So if I own this, I must NOT order https://www.logos.com/product/156623/francis-schaeffer-christians-and-culture-collection

Correct?

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 30 2018 6:12 PM

Glenn Crouch:

Bill Shewmaker:

Thank you Ben and Faithlife. These will be great additions to my Schaeffer collection. 

Agreed!

Yes

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 30 2018 6:27 PM

Vincent Chia:
I do own the "Complete Works of Francis Schaeffer resource." Was this downloaded as ONE RESOURCE?

Yes, it was downloaded as one volume.

Vincent Chia:

That is my understanding.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 30 2018 6:34 PM

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife):

Is there any way you to let us know how different these new editions are from the originals?

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Vincent Chia | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 30 2018 6:52 PM

Thank you Bruce!

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 31 2018 2:07 AM

Bruce Dunning:
Is there any way you to let us know how different these new editions are from the originals?

I don't think the text has changed. I think it's just that the new editions have an additional foreword.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 31 2018 4:14 AM

Mark Barnes:

Bruce Dunning:
Is there any way you to let us know how different these new editions are from the originals?

I don't think the text has changed. I think it's just that the new editions have an additional foreword.

If that is the case it hardly seems worth $35 for new "Forwards". Is a new Forward really a new edition?

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 31 2018 5:11 AM

Bruce Dunning:
If that is the case it hardly seems worth $35 for new "Forwards". Is a new Forward really a new edition?

It is probably not (worth it)! 

It isn't FL's decision if it is a "new edition," but the publisher's. 

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Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 31 2018 8:47 AM

Bruce Dunning:

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife):

Is there any way you to let us know how different these new editions are from the originals?

It's somewhat difficult to say (largely new introductions/forwards).

Technically speaking, all of these books are new editions (or different editions than the collected works) as the collected works were compiled and edited by Schaeffer as a whole not long before he died.

However, I looked at the content to see which books had additional/new content. The ones that didn't, I treated the same as the old editions for our purposes (primarily so that I could segment out the resources users shouldn't buy again). If I happened to miss any new content in the three books I'm referring to as the older editions, it won't matter too much because everyone who already owns the Complete Works will automatically get these three.

I hope that makes sense.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 31 2018 1:40 PM

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife):
Technically speaking, all of these books are new editions (or different editions than the collected works) as the collected works were compiled and edited by Schaeffer as a whole not long before he died.

Thanks for the clarification. What you say makes total sense to me and it is what I expected.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 31 2018 2:49 PM

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife):
Two of the nine are resources we’ve never produced before:
* The Letters of Francis A. Schaeffer
* The Finished Work of Christ

Thanks for giving dynamic pricing to those who (like me) bought the ebook-edition of "The Finished Work of Christ" from Vyrso when it was available there. I'm glad you're doing the right thing here. 

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