reuse personal books in case of computer formatting

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Paulo Andre Viana Fidalgo | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Oct 1 2018 10:33 AM
Hello friends,
Please.
Can personal books be backed up for reuse in case of computer formatting or will they have to be recreated in such cases?
thankful

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Ken McGuire | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 1 2018 10:56 AM

If I am understanding what you want, this can be done already by uploading your personal books to Logos. After you do this, they will be automagically installed on all your Logos Desktop installations.

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Paulo Andre Viana Fidalgo | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 1 2018 1:23 PM

Dear Ken McGuire.
Thanks for the answer.
That would be it.

However, I have not yet used the uploadind option because of another question: if it is necessary to change the original docx that generated the personal book and it is necessary to generate another - to update the content - the previous file transmitted will also be updated automatically?

Another question, if you can help me: Is it possible to open personal books on another computer or on the iPad, for example?

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 1 2018 1:42 PM

Paulo Andre Viana Fidalgo:

Another question, if you can help me: Is it possible to open personal books on another computer or on the iPad, for example?

On another computer after upload to Logos but not to a mobile device as a PBB but if you save the DOCX file as a PDF then you can transfer that  PDF file to the mobile but not in Logos 

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SeeHisFace | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 1 2018 2:06 PM

I would recommend backing up the docx files yourself rather than uploading, as there are not ways to change or delete what you have uploaded, only having the ability to 'hide' the resource. If  not uploaded, you can still edit/delete.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 1 2018 3:15 PM

Paulo Andre Viana Fidalgo:
Can personal books be backed up for reuse in case of computer formatting or will they have to be recreated in such cases?

You should keep a copy of the original .docx file (and a backup) in case you ever need to change it again.

If you click the upload button after you've built a personal book, then the built book (but NOT the .docx file)  will be backed up to Logos' services and will download automatically if you reinstall Logos. If you later edit the .docx file and rebuild the book, the just click 'upload' again.

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Ken McGuire | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 1 2018 5:16 PM

Paulo Andre Viana Fidalgo:
I have not yet used the uploadind option because of another question: if it is necessary to change the original docx that generated the personal book and it is necessary to generate another - to update the content - the previous file transmitted will also be updated automatically?

It is possible to overwrite the book on the Logos servers with the updated version. I do try to wait until I have a "final" version before uploading it, but accidents do happen.

But, as many have mentioned, in order to edit a PB, you need the .docx source file, so DO keep copies of them.

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SeeHisFace | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 1 2018 9:26 PM

I deleted a personal book from the personal book tool after uploading, assuming it would delete it from server, which it did not. 

Is there a way to now modify the book on the server?

I seem to recall recreating the personal book just created another copy, so I hid the one on the server.

I would think that this problem would be the same as if you had reformatted,

Perhaps after reformatting, can a new pbb can be created with a matching identifier ( SQL hack?)  to amend the one on the server?

I will have a look this evening and see if possible but if anyone knows for sure that would be good to know.

I still often consider paying for a resource transfer to a new account as it is so mildly infuriating that I cannot amend/get rid of this book

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Robert M. Warren | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 2 2018 2:48 AM

A few more points on this issue:

  1. Some PBs are too large to upload.
  2. If you have PBs you compiled several years ago, recompiling them can trigger the dreaded compile-stopping 'empty article' error, which is simple enough to remedy, but extremely annoying when compiling several docx files into one PB. 
  3. Backing up the compiled PB (in addition to the docx files, of course), which can be scanned in after disaster recovery, safeguards against 1 & 2. Those files have an extension of '.lbspbb' and are found in a folder like this: 'C:\Users\Robert\AppData\Local\Logos\Data\dtvbpjvl.w2x\ResourceManager\Resources' in Windows.  I use SyncToy to periodically back those files up to a folder that is part of my offline backup strategy. After disaster recovery, copy the backed up PB files to a simpler-named folder and enter 'scan C:folder name' in the Logos command box.

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Paulo Andre Viana Fidalgo | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 2 2018 5:12 AM

Thank you brothers.

All the answers were important to my clarification, with more content than I could expect. The guidelines help a lot to work with logos.

I have all docxs backup.

Ah! I am a simple Brazilian, who does not speak English and uses the Google translator in a small city in the interior of the state of Rio de Janeiro, seeking to improve theological knowledge.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 2 2018 5:25 AM

SeeHisFace:
Is there a way to now modify the book on the server?

No, sorry. You could export it to Word, but then you'd have to redo any tagging etc.

SeeHisFace:
Perhaps after reformatting, can a new pbb can be created with a matching identifier ( SQL hack?)  to amend the one on the server?

You don't need to do this. After formatting, the details of all your PBs will sync to your installation (even if you didn't upload the PB itself). So you just need to re-associate the .docx file with the PB.

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SeeHisFace | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 2 2018 9:31 AM

Ok thank you Mark, I am a little confused now however.

I have a book in my library, a 'user created' book which I had previously uploaded. After uploading, I deleted the book from the Personal Books tool. It did not however delete it from the library.

Now I have no way to either delete or amend this book I created and uploaded. Do you think a reinstallation of logos will make the book I uploaded appear in the Personal Books tool again, which I can then reassociate with the docx in the tool?

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SeeHisFace | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 2 2018 9:42 AM

Actually I am now wondering if it is actually on the server, maybe it is just in my library and I bodged the delete, I really didn't know what I was doing at the time, creating uploading and deleting stuff..I know I had multiple copies of some books and could not remove some unless delete the files....

I am going do a parallel install and see what showing. Cheers for help Big Smile

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SeeHisFace | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 2 2018 10:13 AM

I tried a new install but would have to download and reindex everything to see if it is in the library...the Personal books tool showed all my current books, and the problem one was not there, so I assume it was just a rogue local copy pbb. I think I might of incorrectly applied what Dave said in this thread https://community.logos.com/forums/t/98701.aspx 

I am happier now knowing I can edit books I do upload. Sorry for thread digression, and any confusion caused, although hopefully it helped Paulo and others.

So basically uploading a pbb (if not more than upload size limit), means it will be redownloaded automatically should logos be reinstalled. The docx files used to create the pbb however will have to be backed up manually if you want to edit the pbb in the future.

Cheers

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Paulo Andre Viana Fidalgo | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 2 2018 10:29 AM

Brothers, please.

Just to strengthen my understanding ...

If I want to share my books with a friend, the only way to make them available is in docx?

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 2 2018 10:35 AM

Paulo Andre Viana Fidalgo:
If I want to share my books with a friend, the only way to make them available is in docx?

That is nearly correct.

Technically you could locate the compiled file in your Logos folders, transfer it to your friend and they could "scan" it in. But .docx is a lot easier.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 2 2018 11:04 AM

Graham Criddle:
Technically you could locate the compiled file in your Logos folders, transfer it to your friend and they could "scan" it in. But .docx is a lot easier.

Are you sure about that? I though that subsequent to Logos 4, PBs were licensed only to their creator. You know that Faithlife once planned (IIRC even sort of promised) a way of sharing compiled PBs but discarded the idea. I thought sharing the docx was the only way - otherwise we could have compiled PBs in this forum, which would allow for linking between them, which currently falls flat since every user has their unique, compiler-generated PB file name. 

Running Logos 7 latest (beta) version on Win 10

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 2 2018 11:16 AM

NB.Mick:
Are you sure about that? I though that subsequent to Logos 4, PBs were licensed only to their creator. You know that Faithlife once planned (IIRC even sort of promised) a way of sharing compiled PBs but discarded the idea. I thought sharing the docx was the only way - otherwise we could have compiled PBs in this forum, which would allow for linking between them, which currently falls flat since every user has their unique, compiler-generated PB file name. 

Thinking about it further I think you are right.

Thanks for picking up on that and apologies for the misinformation.

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Calvin Habig | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 2 2018 11:32 AM

OK.  I'm getting confused.  I have quite few PBs and I have regularly uploaded them to Logos for quite a while. It is not at all uncommon for me to edit a book and recompile it and then upload the recompiled version. My understanding was that it overrode the old version on the Logos server and replaced it with my new one. I have never had an old copy show up when I have reinstalled Logos and had the PBs download for the server. Also I have never had it create multiple copies in my PB directory.

It has always seemed very straightforward and a handy tool.

Am I missing something here?

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SeeHisFace | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 2 2018 12:41 PM

You are not missing anything Calvin, I think I just confused things, you can pretty much ignore what I said in this thread. Unfortunately I cannot redact my earlier misunderstood statements. Yes

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