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Dennis Phelps | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 30 2018 7:51 AM

Yikes!

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Randy W. Sims | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 30 2018 7:58 AM

Was there ever any discussion on possibly putting the notes facets in to the visual filter menu or another menu? Some of those facets would be automatic, resource would apply to the current resource, resource type, etc. Bible book wouldn't matter, but tags, author, date, etc. To selectively show/hide notes without needing a notebook?

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Ryan | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 30 2018 8:03 AM

Thank you Graham, 

That is very helpful and I appreciate you taking the time to make/post all those screenshots for me. While I think the visual filters on/off is an important element, it has me wondering if, in addition to the visual filters issue, if there is a reason I would want or need highlights in a specific notebook as opposed to the "mega no-notebook" default. I'm trying to think through what other uses might be.

That of course gets me wondering, if the "mega no-notebook" default is the go-to option, would I only need the formal notebooks for specific user created content? In other words, right now I have a notefile/notebook on each specific resource. All of my highlights as well as my notes with my comments/thoughts are located in that specific resource. However, it sounds like resource specific notebooks are no longer needed. Rather you would only need notebooks for things that aren't resource specific. (For example, a notebook on the topic of Forgiveness, a notebook on the Person of Paul, etc.) Am I understanding this correctly? Sorry for being so "obsessed" it's just that the new notes tool is an entirely different way of organizing than what I've done before and so I want to make sure I'm understanding everything before I take the plunge.

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Randy W. Sims:

Was there ever any discussion on possibly putting the notes facets in to the visual filter menu or another menu? Some of those facets would be automatic, resource would apply to the current resource, resource type, etc. Bible book wouldn't matter, but tags, author, date, etc. To selectively show/hide notes without needing a notebook?

This isn't exactly what you are asking for, but might be useful in showing a subset of your notes:

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 30 2018 8:20 AM

Ryan:
in addition to the visual filters issue, if there is a reason I would want or need highlights in a specific notebook as opposed to the "mega no-notebook" default. I'm trying to think through what other uses might be.

I can't think of any other particular reasons for having highlights in a specific notebook now we have the opportunity to filter highlights by resource.

Ryan:
That of course gets me wondering, if the "mega no-notebook" default is the go-to option, would I only need the formal notebooks for specific user created content? In other words, right now I have a notefile/notebook on each specific resource. All of my highlights as well as my notes with my comments/thoughts are located in that specific resource. However, it sounds like resource specific notebooks are no longer needed

I think this is correct - at the moment I am tending to use notebooks for "wider" things such as notes I am creating for a sermon series I am working on.

Ryan:
Rather you would only need notebooks for things that aren't resource specific. (For example, a notebook on the topic of Forgiveness, a notebook on the Person of Paul, etc.) Am I understanding this correctly?

Notebooks could be used for these - and is probably the best way of handling them.

Another option is using tags - and tagging notes with particular topics. Then you can filter on these tags. For example you might note that in 2 Cor 2:10 Paul is speaking about forgiveness and tag the note with "Paul" and "Forgiveness". Then you could simply filter on the tag to see all the notes on that topic

One benefit of this approach is that notes can have multiple tags but can only be in one notebook

Ryan:
Sorry for being so "obsessed" it's just that the new notes tool is an entirely different way of organizing than what I've done before and so I want to make sure I'm understanding everything before I take the plunge.

No need to apologise - it is good to work these things through.

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Mike Tourangeau | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 30 2018 9:27 AM

I am not sure if this has been discussed anywhere since release...Does Logos eventually plan on making highlights and notes searchable?

This is very important to me.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 30 2018 9:32 AM

Mike Tourangeau:
Does Logos eventually plan on making highlights and notes searchable?

What specifically are you looking for?

We can search for strings within the Notes Tool as below

but I guess this isn't what you are looking for.

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Mike Tourangeau | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 30 2018 9:46 AM

Graham Criddle:
but I guess this isn't what you are looking for.

I don't think so. My technique with this new note tool has been to highlight (see screenshot far right) according to interests and tag so that I can find info later. In this instance it is "Second Temple" and "Jewish Patriotism" While I can find these in the note tool (Awesome)  I would like to search (for sake of an example) "Spartans" (they are within the highlight).

In Logos 7 I could search within a highlight.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 30 2018 9:59 AM

Mike Tourangeau:
In Logos 7 I could search within a highlight.

Thanks Mike

This is on the list of things to be added in - see Missing Functionality at https://www.logos.com/faq/notes (number 5 on the list)

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Ryan | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 30 2018 11:21 AM

Thank you for the clarification above Graham. Most of my notebooks/notefiles are resource specific and it sounds like from the previous posts there isn't a need for this outside of the specific instances (i.e. sermon prep, topic of forgiveness, etc.) If there isn’t a need for notebooks, I should probably get rid of them (but keep the note), but that is going to take a LOT of work. Because of the organization of 1 notebook per book of bible, I often have duplicate notes. Is there an easy way to find them all? Is there an easy way to extract notes that are in a notebook and remove the notebook but do it in bulk?

Thank you for being so generous with your time and helping us. I greatly appreciate all you've done.

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Ryan | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 30 2018 11:49 AM

Oops, nevermind. I found this:

If you have lots of unnecessary notebooks that you want to get rid of (especially if you used per-resource note documents for your highlights), don’t delete the notebook. Currently, deleting a notebook also deletes all of its notes. In the future, we plan to have an option that deletes a notebook without deleting its notes.

For now, the best way to get rid of unneeded notebooks is by selecting multiple notes at a time (by holding down Ctrl/Cmd or Shift), which will bring up the bulk actions area. Select “No Notebook,” and then scroll down and select “Apply changes.” You can only select up to 100 notes at a time, so this method will probably be tedious for really large notebooks. In the future we hope to have a much easier option for getting rid of a notebook you no longer need.

Thanks again for all your help. I'm learning quite a bit.

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Jim Holsinger | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 31 2018 3:56 AM

The changes to the "Notes" In Logos 8 has been a disaster for me!! I spent an hour and a half with a customer service Representative yesterday who was extremely helpful. However I use notes in a two by tow matrix for daily prayer and daily Greek translation, but the new system simply won't work with notes is such approach. This morning doing my devotions and using a cumbersome work around I was able to do my translation, but all of my notes for my prayer journal cannot be found and my matrix keeps pulling up my translation note in all four panes. What a disaster!! It would be helpful if you talked with some of us before you destroy our work!! I have had Logos since Libronix 2 and at this moment feel no loyalty to Logos at all. Jim Holsinger

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 31 2018 4:52 AM

Hi Jim

Sorry to hear that you are having trouble but I am having a bit of difficulty understanding the problem.

Any chance of posting a couple of screen shots to illustrate where it is going wrong?

Often there is a user who has overcome a problem or can suggest an alternative solution.

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 31 2018 5:31 AM

Jim Holsinger:

The changes to the "Notes" In Logos 8 has been a disaster for me!! I spent an hour and a half with a customer service Representative yesterday who was extremely helpful. However I use notes in a two by tow matrix for daily prayer and daily Greek translation, but the new system simply won't work with notes is such approach. This morning doing my devotions and using a cumbersome work around I was able to do my translation, but all of my notes for my prayer journal cannot be found and my matrix keeps pulling up my translation note in all four panes. What a disaster!! It would be helpful if you talked with some of us before you destroy our work!! I have had Logos since Libronix 2 and at this moment feel no loyalty to Logos at all. Jim Holsinger

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. But here is a try from reading your post.

First, about the missing notes, has your software finished syncing? It can take a while for all of the notes to come over the first time.

Second, I am able to open two notes panels and have two different notes up and working on them. Is this not working for you? Am I understanding the problem correctly?

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Jim Holsinger | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 31 2018 1:55 PM

I have been doing work arounds, but four note panels no longer work correctly. Two panels are fine. 

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 31 2018 3:17 PM

Jim Holsinger:

I have been doing work arounds, but four note panels no longer work correctly. Two panels are fine. 

Everyone is finding it difficult to visualise what you used to do in L7 and why that doesn't work now. If you could provide a screenshot or a clearer description we may be able to help.

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Geoff Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 9 2018 8:20 PM

In L7 I made a notebook called "The Life of Christ outside the Gospels," and in it I had a note for each major event in the life of Christ that is described in the New Testament from Romans through Revelation. The same event could be described in multiple places, so within each note there were multiple verse references. I had arranged the notes in chronological order as they occurred in the life of Christ. I liked being able to see all the details of all the notes at once and scroll through them. Of course, now in L8 I cannot see all the notes at once, and they are not listed in chronological order. I can find no way to control what order they appear, though my guess is that they are in the reverse order I made them. That is not the chronology I want them in. 

If I understand how the Notes work now, I need to move all these notes into one single note and format the content within the note with bullets to reflect the events themselves and then list the verse references beneath each bullet. Would those more familiar with the L8 notes feature concur with this approach to making this kind of note? Or is there a different tool for making this sort of thing?

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 10 2018 3:27 AM

Geoff

This thread is getting a little rambling.

I suggest the you copy your post into a new thread with an appropriate and descriptive title. This way your particular problem can be concentrated on and solutions unique to you posited with out the conversation being interspersed with replies to others.

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J. Erik | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 10 2018 6:01 AM

I am writing notes in both Norwegian and English. It would be nice if we could set the language used in the note, so that I/we can keep spell check enabled for English notes, without being bothered with the whole note being painted red while typing notes in a non-English language.

A bonus would be if you also could add spellcheck support for more languages, and of course a language tag for sorting, though this is already possible with custom tags :)

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Ron Martinez | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 13 2018 10:38 AM

Here is how logos 8 manages my notes...it wipes them off my android device and anything I do in iOS does not push to any of my other devices...where do I go to get my money returned to me.  I have no highlights or notes anymore, no one, zero...I live in frustration city, population explosion...

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