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Huey Cuffie | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 30 2018 7:42 PM

I came to the Forums to see if others were feeling the same way about the font. I am very happy for the overall improvement of the app including the Notes feature. But the font is really bad and discourages from reading. Typography is an essential for me when it comes to reading. Please give us the option to restore the previous font as soon as possible. Thanks again for the all the hard work :-)

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Darrell Tan | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 1 2018 5:20 AM

+1

The font doesn't display well at reading size on mobile.

Some letters look too dark compared to the rest, e.g. G, o, W. This gives an uneven feel and interrupts smooth reading.

Both the tracking and leading (even at max) are too tight, resulting in a cramped feel. More attention is spent on deciphering the text and less is left for understanding the content.

8.0.1 beta Android

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Justin Cardozo | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 2 2018 6:43 AM

Logos on Desktop is awesome. The mob refresh was a step in the right direction but it‘s still behind other mobile Bible studying apps, not in power but in ease of use. The font issue is frustrating for these reasons.

-This is a premium product with premium pricing.

-The competitors have the feature.

-It’s a readability issue. Some find it hard to read or they feel it causes eye strain.

I once saw a comment that there are licensing costs with fonts. And it’s also possible that not enough people are asking for it. We can’t all have the features we want. But because it’s an issue directly related to reading, it seems that should increase its priority over a typical feature request. Especially since many rely on Logos for studying in school. 

If Logos can’t accommodate several fonts, at least habe the default be sans serif. That’s a more common, modern style and there is the perception or reality that it’s easier on the eyes.

I apprecitate the prodcut, the work that goes in it, and the welcoming of feedback. I don’t want to only say negative tthing but as someone who pays for resources I wanted to give my thoughts.  

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George | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 3 2018 10:14 AM

Justin Cardozo:
We can’t all have the features we want.

Trrue, but we had what we wanted: a font that was easy on the eyes.

I switched back to the old version of the app until (hopefully) Logos comes up with a solution. I think the problem occurs on devices with lower screen resolutions.

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Samuel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 4 2018 7:54 AM

Yes, please, please give a font option. I would love to have an option to simply use Apple's default font on iOS. It would be awesome if the program interface would use Apple's default font. It would fit in better and be less jarring. 

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Wondercheck | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 4 2018 11:20 PM

The 'new font' is very hard to read. This is extremely disappointing! Just go back to previous. Please! 

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Dustin Butler | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 6 2018 1:44 PM

Oh please do it, Do It, DO IT!!!

Love y'all, the font is nasty awful.

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James McAdams | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 6 2018 2:03 PM

Obviously if people are having difficulty reading it then something needs to be done, but I'm really quite fond of it.

I'll cope if they swap it out, and if they add the ability to choose our own fonts then I guess everyone would be happy, but I'm just saying... it wouldn't have occurred to me that there was a problem if I hadn't seen this thread.

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George | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 7 2018 7:21 AM

James McAdams:
it wouldn't have occurred to me that there was a problem if I hadn't seen this thread.

I don't think there is a problem on higher end screens/devices. I own two Samsung tablets.  One of them is a higher end device the other is a much cheaper device with lowers specs.  On the fancy tablet I agree with you that the font looks great.  Unfortunately the tablet is too big for day to day reading.  On the cheap one on the other hand, the reading experience using the new font is really bad compared to the old font.  I think there are quite a few users who don't have a higher end device and those users may find the new font troublesome. 

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Ben Bush | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 7 2018 7:36 AM

The one glaring head-scratcher since the mobile app rollout years ago is the inability to choose fonts. Not a fan of the new font either, btw. After solving the crash issues with iPhone X, please give users that option. (With all the new features/capabilities, is that too big an ask?) Better still, please include font selection with crash fix! Thanks for all you guys do!

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Kevin Perry | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 7 2018 2:27 PM

George:

James McAdams:
it wouldn't have occurred to me that there was a problem if I hadn't seen this thread.

I don't think there is a problem on higher end screens/devices. I own two Samsung tablets.  One of them is a higher end device the other is a much cheaper device with lowers specs.  On the fancy tablet I agree with you that the font looks great.  Unfortunately the tablet is too big for day to day reading.  On the cheap one on the other hand, the reading experience using the new font is really bad compared to the old font.  I think there are quite a few users who don't have a higher end device and those users may find the new font troublesome. 

I can see the font fine on 2018 ipad, XS Max. Simply don’t prefer this new font for readability.  Neubible app is a winner for a great reading experience and selectable font. It is a real head scratcher that such a powerful mobile app like Logos doesn’t incorporate this. 

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James McAdams | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 7 2018 2:33 PM

My biggest font-y request would be the option to set different languages at different sizes. I like to read English texts with the smallest font setting, but I find that a bit of a strain when reading Greek/Hebrew. I’d love to be able to set those as larger by a notch or two. As it stands, I change the font size globally back and forth a bit. It’s not the biggest deal, but it would be nice to have.

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L.A. | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 9 2018 4:33 AM

Phil Gons (Faithlife):
we're looking into adding an option for users to chose from a selection of fonts. Skolar would most likely still be on that list.
 

Thank you for the response! Yes The new Android 8 app is really cool, but...

... I hope the implementation of this feature won't last too long....... The choice should be screen-resolution-independent. So, Skolar would be fine.

I recently bought a new smartphone (Xperia XZ1 Compact, Android 8, and Sony preparing update to Android 9). It's really like it and didn't regret my choice. It's a very fast and comfortable high-end device, except the screen-resolution. But on a 4.6" screen... (?) 

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George | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 13 2018 8:10 AM

L.A.:
Skolar would be fine

Even Skolar has some minor issues on devices with lower resolution, but they are not bothersome enough to impede reading.  The new font unfortunately makes reading strenuous.  For an app that is designed to be a reading app this is unacceptable.  Logos can and should do better.

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Darrell Tan | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 10 2018 9:49 PM

Using the beta app for Android (8.0.8), the line spacing is uneven, thrown off by what I guess is handling of verse numbers. Do those on the regular app or other versions face this issue?

My screen resolution is high (over 400 ppi) - the font issues are not due to a poor display. Text is sharp, but does not look good or read well.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 11 2018 5:20 AM

Darrell Tan:
Using the beta app for Android (8.0.8), the line spacing is uneven, thrown off by what I guess is handling of verse numbers. Do those on the regular app or other versions face this issue?

This is a post and question for the beta forum, but to answer your question: This has been an ongoing issue at times on iOS. I have not kept up with the status of the issue. 

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Jesús Polaino | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 11 2018 9:32 AM

I also like the previous font, much more readable.

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Darrell Tan | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 12 2018 5:07 PM

JT, do you mean the forum "Logos Mobile App Beta (Old)"? To me the term "old" means the forum is no longer active. Or is there another forum?

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 12 2018 7:21 PM

Darrell Tan:
Or is there another forum?

I am not actively beta testing, so I may not be able to help here. It <may> be that they have moved beta discussions solely to Faithlife.com. If so, that is sad. However, when beta testing you should post where they have requested you to do so. Otherwise the "right" people won't see your post and be able to help solve the issue moving forward. 

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Darrell Tan | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 12 2018 10:10 PM

I went back to FL's e-mail to check. Well, I began by using the in-app link to 'report a problem'; that generated an e-mail to FL, which I sent. Customer service replied that they do not support the beta, and so I should post in this forum (.../150.aspx). Anyway, they have also sent me a second e-mail which states their team 'is currently aware of these issues' - so perhaps it's queued for action. I can only hope so; L8 mobile has been a disappointment so far. It's good that there is an active user base, though.

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