I have used Logos for years (version 4), but have used the notes feature so little you could say I don't use it. Every version, I try - but I just can't do it.
Sure, I know how to make a note, and now a notebook. I can highlight, etc.
What I've always struggled with is the usability of notes taken, for me they are just random bits here and there - no real organization.
Can you help me wrap my brain around this? I've watched videos, know the basics of the function - the usability of notes is my hurdle.
A Question to Illustrate (just an illustration): Can Notebooks or Notes be nested? like ...
1 Peter Notebook
--Outline
--Paragraph Summaries
--Key Words
--Suffer
--Holy
--Observations
--And So On
See, this is how my brain works, how I organize my thinking. Can Logos 8 organize in the same way? Or how do I need to change my thinking?
Andy Williams:Can you help me wrap my brain around this?
If you'll sing, "Moon River" for me, I'll be glad to help.
Just kidding...I don't really understand it either. But I wanted to tag this thread so it will appear in My Posts and I thought this would be a clever way to do it. I'm sure you've never heard that tease (on your name) before, have you?
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Andy Williams: See, this is how my brain works, how I organize my thinking. Can Logos 8 organize in the same way? Or how do I need to change my thinking?
Notes in Logos can't be organised in that way - though it is something that has been discussed by other users.
Favorites can be structured in that way and might help with what you are trying to do. Some context at https://wiki.logos.com/Favorites
Andy I can't help with Notes- have not used them in years- L8 only made it worse- I see notes as nothing more than storing Highlights, Workflow is ok, but you can't save them with the resources in it- you have to save it as a layout then drag it to a folder in Favorites I posted a screen shot of what I'm doing.
I use Word doc's and One note to create notes, linking L8 resources into both as I go.
It is actually working the way Notes should work.
Andy Williams: Can Notebooks or Notes be nested? like ... 1 Peter Notebook --Outline --Paragraph Summaries --Key Words --Suffer --Holy --Observations --And So On
Can Notebooks or Notes be nested? like ...
My recommendation would be to have a 1 Peter Notebook, and then immediately create a note for "Table of Contents". Then add all your other notes, and link to those from the Table of Contents.
Sorting your notebook by "Date Created" show allow you to find your ToC fairly easily next time. If alphabetical sorting is added in the future, you could make the first line "!Table of Contents" in order to get it to show at the top.
I use OneNote as well, though I don't link L8 resources. I do like being able to organize my notes how I wish.
And, I am beginning to think One Note is the way to go. The new Notes is WAY WAY WAY too complicated. I was one of the ones clamoring for a robust Notes system. FL delivered. And, now I am going through a penance stage.
Doc B: Andy Williams:Can you help me wrap my brain around this? If you'll sing, "Moon River" for me, I'll be glad to help. Just kidding...I don't really understand it either. But I wanted to tag this thread so it will appear in My Posts and I thought this would be a clever way to do it. I'm sure you've never heard that tease (on your name) before, have you?
Doc B - you crack me up!
Bill Cook:The new Notes is WAY WAY WAY too complicated.
There's lots about the new Notes that needs to be improved, but one thing it isn't and that's complicated. If anything, it's too simple.
Wyndell shows how FAVORITES can be nested to organize according to user preference. I think it makes good sense to be able to drag a shortcut to a "notebook" into the nested structure of Favorites. Am I wrong?
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Mark Barnes: Bill Cook:The new Notes is WAY WAY WAY too complicated. There's lots about the new Notes that needs to be improved, but one thing it isn't and that's complicated. If anything, it's too simple.
Perhaps I am struggling to grasp the paradigm of the New Notes.
I guess complicated is probably not the best way to describe it- messy, to much hoopla, etc. It is not practical.
I use favorites to help organize, one note and words to keep information- Word doc's I turn into PBB's and nest them within the notebook for the study- it works for teaching, study, preaching, just all round information to share. No fuss, no muss, no way to lose your way- by the way most of the Workflow's will even make this task easier- but NOTES, NO WAY!!!
Just or Doc :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_jgIezosVA
Mark Barnes:There's lots about the new Notes that needs to be improved, but one thing it isn't and that's complicated. If anything, it's too simple.
Well, simple doesn't mean intuitive, nor does it mean usable, nor effective. This has been my problem with Notes I cant figure out how to make Notes these things. So I'll look to 3rd party solutions as suggested. Either way, my study will get done, my notes saved somehow.
And BTW, I'd be very wealthy if I had a dollar for every time I've been asked to sing Moon River, or how the Osmonds are doing. If you'd like to make a donation, I'm sure I could figure out a way to receive it. ;-)
Andy Williams:Well, simple doesn't mean intuitive, nor does it mean usable, nor effective. This has been my problem with Notes I cant figure out how to make Notes these things. So I'll look to 3rd party solutions as suggested. Either way, my study will get done, my notes saved somehow.
Roughly speaking, I think this is where we've come from, where we are and where we're going:
My own view is that if someone considers the new Notes tool complicated or unintuitive it's probably a sign that they're looking at the new tool through the lens of the old tool. That's understandable, of course, but I think we'll get the most out of the new tool if we can look at it with fresh eyes.
Mark -
notes is a mess, I will continue to use One Note ad Word- those who like go for it, for me it is the worst they ever done.
Mark Barnes: My own view is that if someone considers the new Notes tool complicated or unintuitive it's probably a sign that they're looking at the new tool through the lens of the old tool. That's understandable, of course, but I think we'll get the most out of the new tool if we can look at it with fresh eyes.
That is what I would like to do - that is, look at it through new eyes. But, I don't know where to start.
So, the notes I had made previously that were migrated to the New Notes if a highlighted section of text seems to have become an Anchor in the New Notes.
It does not seem possible unless I am missing it to search for the highlighted text. Is that correct?
Bill Cook:It does not seem possible unless I am missing it to search for the highlighted text. Is that correct?
Yes. This is # 6 of the upcoming features at https://www.logos.com/faq/notes
Running Logos 8 latest beta version on Win 10
Count me as one person for whom the new Notes is an incredible blessing. I am probably a moderate user of Notes and the filtering and taxonomies behind that allow me to read books and highlight or note-take almost as easily and simply as I would with text, trusting I'll be able to find it later. The new notes was alone worth the 400$ I spent to upgrade.