Complete Ancient Christian Commentary on Scripture to be released in August

I got email from Rejoice Software for an offer of $230.  I ordered it.  I noticed that a few weeks ago IVP had a release date of August, but I see this morning a date of November.

OK, just wondering still, any news on the update from Logos? I have not seen anything on prepub unless I missed it. Thanks!

Thanks for the update Kent!

"I buy Logos resources, and if I have any money left over, I buy food."

It was written on the wall by the stairs in one of the large bookshops here. I think I have got the quote a little wrong, but the above feel more correct for some of us.

Andrew McKenzie said:

It's an  Erasmus quote ...

Thanks Andrew.

I'm working on a plan that should permit me to buy more Logos resources AND food, but with less free time to hang out here. Some people call it "a job".

[:)]

Andrew McKenzie said:

And yes you can get the t-shirt......http://www.zazzle.com.au/books_tshirt-235414578267031532

Thanks for the link. They have some cool shirts. Funny stuff!

Mark A. Smith said:

If you didn't get one, a call to sales might sort things out

Thanks for that Mark!  I called my sales man and I should have gotten the email offering it but didn't; so they are going to honor that offer.    I will be downloading the upgrade-today. 

I have successfully got my upgrade - it looks great. But I was a little dismayed to discover that it is not yet a Logos 3 resource. I guess I don't mind too much if it is eventually .... but will it be? As a big fan of L3, this matters to me.

I kind of feel a little disappointed about this ... as I don't remember seeing anything about this not being a L3 resource, until after I had paid, and had even received the L4 resource.

Sorry to moan. Logos rules.

Cheers,

Steve

There is a very clear statement a little bit down on the webpage that says:

"Please Note: The Ancient Christian Commentary on Scripture (29 Vols.) is available only for Logos 4 users."

http://www.logos.com/products/prepub/details/8100

Mark A. Smith said:

Maybe once the full product is released the 3.0 files will be on the Logos server. Like you, I would want this resource in both formats so I will be interested in the official explanation.

When I got the email notifying me that the files could be downloaded to Logos 4, I navigated to the "download instructions for previous versions".  When I selected that, Libronix Update came up and I downloaded the license for "Ancient Christian Commentary on Scripture: Volume II Download".  No resource files were available.  I, too, would really appreciate an official word on future use in Libronix.

Joan Korte said:

I, too, would really appreciate an official word on future use in Libronix.

 

Especially since Logos 4 is an incomplete product. I do have a license for Logos 4 but do not use it; and won't until the bugs are ironed out and my PBB files are recognized. At that time I may spring for a new computer but not before the application is finished. Everything else I need to run, but L4, runs just fine on the "obsolete" hardware I now have.

Robert

Yikes! I just spent my $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ on the NICNT/NICOT one hour ago.

Any who has the 12 volume set want to comment on the usefulness of the this set. I have read up on it and am intrigued. I would appreciate input to help me decide if this is something I want to purchase. I am a novice when it comes to early church history. But I'm interested.

Mark A. Smith said:

or it (the publisher) is doing something different from what Logos is doing.

I assume the publisher is IVP. Their advertising clearly states Libronix.

But that has not hindered Logos from offering their own Logos4 version.

In the past IVP wanted to release only a "boxed" set for the (Libronix) Tyndale Commentaries. This caused contreversy from those wanting "downloads."

Perhaps this is a way for Logos tp keep both groups happy? as "Ancient Christian" is about to be released?

... just speculating...

Mark A. Smith said:

Kent Hendricks said:

As we got closer to the ship date, we spoke with IVP about finding the best possible solution for Logos 4 users

Kent can you comment of the Logos 3 users and what their options are going to be?

I sometimes get the impression that Logos would be just as happy if us Libronix users just faded away. (This may happen soon, as I am 74 years old.[:)])

I  maintain that Libronix on a netbook or modest laptop is superior to the much hyped Iphone/Ipad implementation; let alone trying to run Logos 4 on anything but a souped up high end machine.

The alternative seems to be to buy this IVP resource from the original publisher if you want it in Libronix. This also seems to be true of some of the resources available from some of the other partner publishers. Those that remain. I am concerned about the Logos 4 trend toward possible elimination of partner publishers for resources for their system. So Apple-like.

Robert

Rosie Perera said:

I'm sure they'd want to have more publishing partners not fewer.

Rosie,

You have a point. But:

I am referring to resources that work within the Logos 4 application.

I haven't seen any resources produced for use in Logos 4 except by Logos. There were resources developed for Libronix by publishers other than Logos. Perhaps this is just because Logos 4 is an unfinished product and not quite ready for opening to other publishers. I guess we will have to wait and see what will come out of their PBB implementation.

Robert

Robert G. Mettler said:

I am referring to resources that work within the Logos 4 application.

I haven't seen any resources produced for use in Logos 4 except by Logos. There were resources developed for Libronix by publishers other than Logos. Perhaps this is just because Logos 4 is an unfinished product and not quite ready for opening to other publishers.

Possibly. But it might also be for the same reason that other publishers didn't come on board immediately with the Libronix format either. It would take them all a whlie to gear up to producing native Logos 4 products (granted, they've probably had enough time by now to be doing it if they wanted to; I doubt it's because Logos isn't letting them, though). Furthermore, they probably still all have stock of the Libronix CDs that they'd want to sell off before producing any Logos 4 ones.

All the Libronix products do work in Logos 4 (Logos made L4 able to read Libronix products) so it isn't like they are cutting these publishers off if they don't want to produce L4 products yet. The publishers are probably eying the installed base and waiting to move to L4 until enough people have upgraded for it to be worth their while to cut off the "legacy" users of Libronix. As it is now, they just need to produce one version and it will work for all L3 and L4 users. If they did a L4 native product, they'd also have to do a L3 version. So from the publishers' perspective, what's the point? They don't want to shell out the money for double development if they don't need to.

Your point that Logos 4 is not quite in its finished state is valid, and is perhaps indirectly a contributing factor to publishers staying with L3 for now, since that may be why a certain percentage of people are still hanging on to L3 and not upgrading.

But it is a long leap from there to "the Logos 4 trend toward possible elimination of partner publishers for resources for their system." [:)]

what about some sample pages of Complete Ancient Christian Commentary? [8-)] Think I'll stick to Catena Aurea at CP price[;)]