Searching for questions asked by Jesus, listed by addressee

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Kevin Todhunter | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Jan 2 2019 2:47 AM

I can search for questions asked by Jesus to a specific addressee - there's an easy-to-use search template in Logos 8 for that - but I would like to run a search that will group all the questions that Jesus asked by addressee.

Can anyone help?

Thanks.

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Richard Wardman | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 2 2019 3:02 AM

Hi Kevin

The search below will give you all the questions that Jesus asked, but that's a pretty big list and doesn't really give you what you want! 

{Speaker <Person Jesus>} INTERSECTS {Label Question} INTERSECTS {<*>}

You might want to use the Bible Browser (Tools > start typing Bible Browser).

Then select "Reported Speech" > select "Jesus"

Then select "Propositional Outlines" > "Speakers" select "Question"

Then you can go back to Reported Speech, select "Addressees" and you will find a list of all the people/groups of people Jesus addresses with questions. 

Hopefully that gives you want to need?!

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 2 2019 5:31 AM

Richard Wardman:
select "Propositional Outlines" > "Speakers" select "Question"

Sentence Type Interrogative includes Propositional Outlines: Question, Question (Yes), & Question (No)

Richard Wardman:
{Speaker <Person Jesus>} INTERSECTS {Label Question} INTERSECTS {<*>}

{Speaker <Person Jesus>} INTERSECTS {Label Question}

is significantly faster than wildcard search <*> while having the same search results (suspect <*> matches <Person Jesus> plus more)

Alternative to Label Question is Sentence Type Interrogative (same results)

{Speaker <Person Jesus>} INTERSECTS {Section <Sentence = Interrogative>}

Keep Smiling Smile

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Richard Wardman | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 3 2019 2:45 AM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
Sentence Type Interrogative includes Propositional Outlines: Question, Question (Yes), & Question (No)

Thanks for this. I obviously didn't dig deep enough!

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):

{Speaker <Person Jesus>} INTERSECTS {Label Question}

is significantly faster than wildcard search <*> while having the same search results (suspect <*> matches <Person Jesus> plus more)

Alternative to Label Question is Sentence Type Interrogative (same results)

{Speaker <Person Jesus>} INTERSECTS {Section <Sentence = Interrogative>}

This is also very helpful. I've not really done many wildcard searches so this was a stab in the dark. I still have so much to learn about search! 

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Kevin Todhunter | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 3 2019 3:21 AM

Thanks very much for your replies - very helpful.

The missing bit for me is the ability to sort the list of questions into groups (with a count) by addressee. Using the browser shows the number of hits by addressee in the sidebar but I can't find a way of getting this information into a passage list. My ideal would be a resulting passage list or spreadsheet where, for example, it shows

> Peter (n)

n verses listed

> John (m)

m verses listed

Any ideas?

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 3 2019 3:39 AM

Kevin Todhunter:
The missing bit for me is the ability to sort the list of questions into groups (with a count) by addressee. Using the browser shows the number of hits by addressee in the sidebar but I can't find a way of getting this information into a passage list

The closest I can get to what you want still leaves you with quite a bit of work!

You can save the Browser information into a Passage List

giving

You can then search for individual addressees within that Passage List - but you would need to do each one individually

A nice way for this to work would be if the Analysis view were extended to allow grouping by Speaker or Addressee (or a range of other attributes) - but it can't do that at the moment.

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