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Mark Futato | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Jun 2 2010 3:10 PM

I have a student who is having trouble pasting Hebrew text into Lotus word processing. He says the the paste works but then the text changes when he move to the next line. Any suggestions?

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Fred Chapman | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 2 2010 7:45 PM

Mark Futato:

I have a student who is having trouble pasting Hebrew text into Lotus word processing. He says the the paste works but then the text changes when he move to the next line. Any suggestions?

I don't know anything about the Lotus word processor. If he can cannot come up with a solution he may want to consider a openoffice.org

 

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2010 5:25 PM

Mark, I was once a staunch user of Lotus Wordpro.  In what way is the text changing when he moves to the next line? 

As I recall LWP: He may have a setting under paragraph spacing that is causing the issue. 

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2010 5:31 PM

WordPro is very old - perhaps 10 years old now. I'm not sure it fully supports unicode or R-L text which would be necessary for Hebrew language support. This page suggests as much: http://www.linguistsoftware.com/lau.htm

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Mark Futato | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2010 5:34 PM

He said he misspoke and meant Logos not Lotus. He went on to say "It is reordering the letters from right to left TO left to right.  I have not yet figured out how to turn off whatever it is that's causing the problem."

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2010 5:39 PM

Can I clarify? Is he pasting into Logos, out out of Logos? And if it's out of Logos, what is he pasting into?

Also, is it biblical text he's pasting, or is it a paragraph of English text that also contains some Hebrew?

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Mark Futato | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2010 5:49 PM

He is copying individual Hebrew words out of an interlinear in Logos and copying into Word.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2010 5:56 PM

Yes, you're right, that doesn't work. Copying/Pasting Hebrew text is fine, but not interlinear text. The word order gets messed up.

I'm afraid you've uncovered a bug. I'll report it on the beta forum where it will get noticed (and eventually fixed).

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Mark Futato | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2010 7:22 PM

Thanks. I will let him know.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 4 2010 9:37 AM

In communication with a Logos employee, we've discovered that the problem only occurs if you copy/paste one verse or less. If you copy/paste two or more verses it works fine. Copying an extra verse then deleting it later might be a work around for the time being.

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Mark Futato | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 4 2010 10:39 AM

Thanks for the follow-up.

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Alan Macgregor | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 4 2010 11:12 AM

Mark Barnes:
I'm not sure it fully supports unicode or R-L text which would be necessary for Hebrew language support.

As a WordPro (I still use WordPro for funeral orders, as no other wordprocessor has the ability to automate text input into templates using ClickHere Blocks and SmartCollect) user since the days of AmiPro, when Logos 1.6 actually had a Lotus macro which worked beautifully, I can confirm that it is Unicode font design which is the real problem. Even R-L text is not a problem as long as you change fonts and use TTF fonts. What you do have to do, though, is proof-read the paste and change the odd gobbledegook characters.

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