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Chuck G. | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Apr 18 2019 5:44 AM

When I open a passage guide in a user-defined layout, I want all the resources to not be expanded (which takes a lot of time when I move from verse to verse). I can click on the arrow beside each to shrink it down and then update the layout. That works fine as long as Logos stays open and running on my computer. But if I shut Logos down, and then restart, the passage guide in my layout shows all resources expanded again. That doesn't happen with the exegetical guide which is in the same layout. I know I can just leave Logos open, but from time to time I shut my computer down (laptop). Does anyone have experience with this issue? I am using Logos 8.4 on macOS Mojave. 

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Fred Chapman | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 18 2019 12:40 PM

The Guides are supposed to remember the last state they were when closed. It is a good idea to get in the habit of collapsing all the sections prior to closing. If you do this, when the guide is reopened, it should do so in the collapsed state.

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Chuck G. | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 18 2019 2:59 PM

Fred, thanks for your response.  I have done that, and it all works as long as I don't shut down the Logos app. If I just close the Logos window in macOS, and then open it up again, the guide works as it should, remembering the layout as I left it. However, when I close the program (by right clicking on the Logos icon in the dock) and then start up Logos, the passage guide resources are expanded again (not collapsed as I left them). Of course, I could simply never shut down Logos, but I use Logos on my laptop and I often shut it down when I travel or go to my office away from home (i.e. the local Panera bread company!) or to church. That seems like a glitch to me in the software. 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 18 2019 3:05 PM

I believe that Fred gave a partial answer but am not certain. I believe that the state of the guide in the saved layout overrides the state last used. Save the layout with the guide completely collapsed and I think you'll get what you want.

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Chuck G. | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 18 2019 3:34 PM

MJ, thanks for interacting on this.  I did save the layout with guide completely collapsed.  But, when I shut down the app or shut down the laptop and then start up again, the guide is not collapsed.  So, to state in other words, I fixed the layout with the guides collapsed, then when to the layout menu and updated the "Greek" layout to the current layout. Then to test, I then brought up a different layout and then went back to the "Greek" layout, and it all looked good, the passage guide was still collapsed. HOWEVER, when I shut down Logos and then started up again, went to the layout menu and selected "Greek" layout. It shows up as laid out, EXCEPT every item in the passage guide is expanded. That is what I have been doing all along.  

Now, when I just went back to test it again,  it all worked!! This is something I have struggled with for a week or so. I am wondering if that particular thing may take a while to propagate through the system.  Or maybe I am overworked and not seeing straight. Thanks for your help. It tells me that my intuition of how it SHOULD work was correct, my steps must have been amiss. 

Blessings!

Chuck

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Fred Chapman | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 18 2019 4:48 PM

For the Guides, the condition they are saved in as part of a layout is not the determining factor for how they open. They will reopen in the state they were last closed in.

Here is a short screencast demonstrating

EDIT: I apologize for the resolution. I just got this imac and have not figured out the best way to record the screen yet

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 18 2019 5:50 PM

Thanks for checking Fred

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Chuck G. | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 18 2019 5:51 PM

Fred, thanks for the screencast. I think the confusion comes in my failing to distinguish between the layout that is saved and one of the panels within the layout, namely the passage guide.  The layout itself, correct me if I am wrong, is saved when the user updates in the layout menu. The passage guide, on the other hand, remains as it was last used and is not affected by the updating of the layout, since the PG is just an element within the layout. At any rate, it all seems to be working now, or should I say, I seem to be working it right now and my problem is solved. 

BTW, on a mac, Mojave, you can use the screenshot app to either take a screen grab or a recording of the screen. 

Thanks all.

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 19 2019 12:19 AM

Fred Chapman:
EDIT: I apologize for the resolution. I just got this imac and have not figured out the best way to record the screen yet

Command + Shift + 5 should be your friend in these circumstances.

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