Removing Handouts in 8.5

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Adam Borries (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Apr 24 2019 2:43 PM

Handout documents will no longer be able to be created in Logos 8.5. Handout documents were an experimental feature in Logos 4 on Windows (it was never supported on Mac), which has been officially deprecated for several years. ("Handout document" is not to be confused with the printable "handout" view of Sermon documents, which is still supported.) Removing the ability to create Handouts lets us focus on improving the tools most people use, and stops the program offering a feature to new users that we know we won't be maintaining or improving.

Users with existing Handouts will still be able to view and edit existing Handout documents, but there will no longer be an option to create new Handouts in 8.5. Thank you for understanding.

Adam Borries | Product Manager, Logos desktop application

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 24 2019 3:52 PM

And here I thought that this had already happened. Handouts are the feature I forget about because there are hardly any complaints about them (ever) on the forums.

Workaround for the one in a million people who need to make and use and not delete/erase many handouts (and can't stay pre-8.5):

1. Before updating to 8.5, create a few dozen (or more) handout documents, saved according to some reasonable scheme: ExtraHandout1, ExtraHandout2, etc.

2. After 8.5, edit at your leisure.

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GaoLu | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 25 2019 7:54 AM

SineNomine:

Workaround for the one in a million people who need to make and use and not delete/erase many handouts (and can't stay pre-8.5):

1. Before updating to 8.5, create a few dozen (or more) handout documents, saved according to some reasonable scheme: ExtraHandout1, ExtraHandout2, etc.

2. After 8.5, edit at your leisure.

Handouts was a great idea, rather cool, that I never used. Always thought I might someday.  Made a few samples.  I am sad to see it go, but won't miss it.  I have the samples just in case.

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Matt Hamrick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 30 2019 4:35 AM

Good Riddance!

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Ronald Quick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 30 2019 5:20 AM

It's the same for me.  I always thought handouts were a great idea, but I rarely used them.  I've made a number of Extra Handouts so I have the option of using them at a later date.

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Ronald Quick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 30 2019 5:51 AM

I've never used document sharing in Logos, but down the road if there is a user who didn't see this thread and wants to create a handout, would I be able to share one of my extra handouts that they could then edit?

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 29 2019 7:59 AM

Gosh this is the first I'm hearing of this... I really liked this tool

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Amelia A Price | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 13 2019 2:48 PM

Yes, please! Share a couple or a few for those of us who read this too late. Thanks!

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Ronald Quick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 15 2019 11:43 AM

I'm trying to share a blank handout, but I'm not sure how to do it.  Does anyone know how?  Thanks.

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SteveF | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 15 2019 11:54 AM

Ronald Quick:
I'm trying to share a blank handout

I tried to do that using the FaithLife "Groups" and "Documents" etc but never succeeded. Sorry.

Regards, SteveF

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Amelia A Price | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 15 2019 12:07 PM

It appears that the "Share" function has been disabled for Handouts. Is there another way anyone knows to "share" these docs? 

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Ronald Quick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 15 2019 2:19 PM

I know that this won't help with Handouts, but in the future, if Faithlife is going to remove a feature (like creating new handouts), would it be feasible for a message to pop up when someone open Logos?

Not everyone visits the forums regularly and something like this should be communicated to Logos users.  

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Ronald Quick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 15 2019 2:21 PM

Amelia A Price:

It appears that the "Share" function has been disabled for Handouts. Is there another way anyone knows to "share" these docs? 

I haven't update my laptop to 8.5 yet.  Right now it is getting repaired.  When I get it back, I'll look to see if the "share" function for handouts is disabled on it.

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Amelia A Price | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 15 2019 2:35 PM

Yes. It is very hard for a company to know how its products are used "in the wild". What I need or want from the software may be different from someone else. They cannot keep or maintain everything. But some warning would have been nice.

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Amelia A Price | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 15 2019 2:35 PM

Thank you

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Amelia A Price | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 15 2019 2:36 PM

Thank you!

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 15 2019 2:55 PM

Amelia A Price:

Yes. It is very hard for a company to know how its products are used "in the wild". What I need or want from the software may be different from someone else. They cannot keep or maintain everything. But some warning would have been nice.

I agree. I was lucky enough to catch this but I wish they kept it in or at least asked who uses it. I find it quite useful. I hope they bring it back or something similar one day. It looks great when teaching and saves me work 😇

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Ronald Quick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 23 2019 6:52 PM

I just got my laptop back and am still running 8.4 SR-1.  Unfortunately handouts cannot be shared.  SadSad

I wonder if they ever could be because other document types cannot be shared either, such as prayer lists (this makes sense) and word puzzles.

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