Strong, Louw-Nida, and G/K numbering systems

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Jun 10 2010 8:05 AM

I grew up (early 70's) with the Strong's numbering system.  As I have used LOGOS, I have become familiar with the Louw-Nida numbering system as an alternative.  Earlier today, I stumbled on a third system, the G/K or Goodrich/Kohlenberger numbering system.

I guess I really have two questions -

  1. What are the key differences in these systems?  Do they have some practical or philosophical differences that help define their use?
  2. Is there some kind of resource that builds some kind of equivalencies between these system?  

One more question - are there any more numbering systems that I should be aware of?

Thank you for any help you can provide.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 10 2010 8:13 PM

Goodrich/Kohlenberger is another numbering system for lemmas, more akin to Strong's than LN numbers but reflecting more recent scholarship (others can offer more than this personal observation). Other bible software use it as an index to lemmas within bible resources but Logos only uses Strong's and Louw-Nida numbers.

LN is a unique system that is organised around the different meanings of lexical items (lemmas) in the Greek NT vocabulary. Meanings are classified by specific domains and subdomains such that a lemma can belong to one or more subdomains according to its use in the Greek NT.  Logos attempts to assign a single context sensitive LN number to each word of its Greek NT bibles. This contrasts with the other numbering systems which assign a single number to a lexical item.

Other numbering systems include TDNT (volume/page number) and TWOT (akin to G/K for the OT only).

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 10 2010 8:40 PM

Dave Hooton:
Other bible software use it as an index to lemmas within bible resources but Logos only uses Strong's and Louw-Nida numbers.

If I were to buy a paper resource that used the G/K system, would there be a way to find parallel material in LOGOS?

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 10 2010 9:19 PM

If that resource refers to lemmas via the G/K system then you would need the 3 x Dictionary of Biblical Languages  (DBL Greek/Hebrew/Aramaic) which come with almost all Logos base libraries.

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 4 2012 7:32 AM

Floyd Johnson:

Dave Hooton:
Other bible software use it as an index to lemmas within bible resources but Logos only uses Strong's and Louw-Nida numbers.

If I were to buy a paper resource that used the G/K system, would there be a way to find parallel material in LOGOS?

The NIV Strongest Exhaustive Concordance by Zondervan uses this system.  I am using it in an a theology course at Liberty right now, and the lemmas are the same that are in LOGOS.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 4 2012 4:32 PM

David Taylor Jr:

Floyd Johnson:

Dave Hooton:
Other bible software use it as an index to lemmas within bible resources but Logos only uses Strong's and Louw-Nida numbers.

If I were to buy a paper resource that used the G/K system, would there be a way to find parallel material in LOGOS?

The NIV Strongest Exhaustive Concordance by Zondervan uses this system.  I am using it in an a theology course at Liberty right now, and the lemmas are the same that are in LOGOS.

 

To clarify my earlier response to Floyd, enter the G/K number into the appropriate (Greek, Hebrew, or Aramaic) lexicon from Dictionary of Biblical Languages e.g.

  • click in the text box
  • select Hebrew GK #614  -->(whatever number is there)
  • edit the number 614 
  • hit Enter

You can do the same with Enhanced Strong's Lexicon

Note: both lexicons use Hebrew GK for Aramaic.

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Daniel Wurzberg | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 14 2021 12:04 PM

I know this is a decade old, but can't find a more recent topic....is there a way to build a G/K dictionary as PB? Is there a way to make headwords and mark them with a datatype for G/K numbers?

tnx 

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 14 2021 6:09 PM

Daniel Wurzberg:
I know this is a decade old, but can't find a more recent topic

You could have started a new thread for this query.

Daniel Wurzberg:
is there a way to build a G/K dictionary as PB?

The format is [[@datatype:reference]]. Find the datatype name via https://wiki.logos.com/Finding_the_right_datatype_name_and_reference

For GK numbers to be recognised, an entry would look like:

[[@GreekGK:#5947]] 5947

χιϚʼ (chi): ; ≡ Str 5516—adj. GK number mis-alphabetized

You can experiment to see if [[@GreekGK:5947]] also works.

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Daniel Wurzberg | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 15 2021 1:28 PM

ah, thank you, I need to try this GreekGK:#5947 as GreekGK:GK5947 doesn+t work...not really sure where I got the :GK5947 syntax

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 15 2021 2:50 PM

If you select an L4 link in DBL Greek you get logosres:dblgreek;ref=GreekGK.GGK5947; which suggests that the datatype is GreekGK and the value is GGK5947.  i.e. [[@GreekGK:GGK5947]] 5947. In practice 5947, #5947 and GGK5947 are recognised as the value.

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