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Wayne levi Price | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019 6:51 PM

My BIBLES are picking up the Color Annotations from a Bible that does NOT have "Corresponding Notes and Highlights" Checked. It is turned off. WHY is this happening?

Verbal Explanation below.

Video Demonstration available below as well.

I have 3 Bibles with Corresponding Notes and Highlights selected and One with that option turned off.

The Bibles with the option selected are sharing the Note Colors - they are not sending to the one that the feature is turned off.

The one that has the feature turned off is not receiving color annotations from the other books.

BUT, the color annotations I make in the Bible with the feature TURNED OFF is still sending the Color annotations to the other Bibles that have the feature turned on.

I do not want to see the color highlights from the BIble with the feature turned off. that is why I turned it off in that Bible. 

Is there a solution.

Short Video Demonstrates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDVH3jGIDwE 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 30 2019 9:05 PM

Wayne levi Price:
BUT, the color annotations I make in the Bible with the feature TURNED OFF is still sending the Color annotations to the other Bibles that have the feature turned on.

When you create a note by reference rather than by selection, the corresponding notes and highlights setting is irrelevant.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 31 2019 1:09 AM

MJ. Smith:
When you create a note by reference rather than by selection, the corresponding notes and highlights setting is irrelevant.

By definition, references don't belong to any one version. They belong to all resources that share that reference. So only use this option if you want your note showing in all versions.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 31 2019 4:19 AM

Mark Barnes:
By definition, references don't belong to any one version. They belong to all resources that share that reference. So only use this option if you want your note showing in all versions.

highlights used to be "notes of selection" by definition. Is that no longer true? 

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Reuben Helmuth | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 31 2019 6:45 AM

JT (alabama24):
highlights used to be "notes of selection" by definition. Is that no longer true? 

Not necessarily... a reference range anchor can be added to a highlight (bad idea by the way!).

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 31 2019 7:49 AM

Reuben Helmuth:
Not necessarily... a reference range anchor can be added to a highlight

And does that trigger the highlight to appear in all resources (as I would expect)? 

Reuben Helmuth:
bad idea by the way!

Why? 

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Kevin | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 31 2019 7:49 AM

Wayne the problem is that it does not 'send' to the other bibles, it 'receives' if that option is selected.

If it is not selected, then that bible will not show the highlights from the other bibles.

Eg....If you make a highlight in bible A, it does not matter whether or not the corresponding filter is selected in A....if it is selected in B, then it will show in B. Likewise if corresponding filter is not selected in B, then it will not show in B.

Think of the filter as being 'Show other bibles corresponding highlights'

As per the previous posts above, if it is a reference highlight, eg anchored to "Isaiah 14:13", then the corresponding filter does not apply, however you were highlighting just a specific portion of a verse and were anchored to "Isaiah 14:13 AV 1873", and therefore it would of been a bible specific highlight, which is exactly what the corresponding filter is used for.

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Reuben Helmuth | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 31 2019 11:24 AM

JT (alabama24):
And does that trigger the highlight to appear in all resources (as I would expect)? 

Yes, it does. The reason this is a (generally) bad idea is that it affects all versified resources, which means that the ENTIRE text in commentaries for that milestone will also get highlighted.

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 31 2019 11:48 AM

Wayne levi Price:

My BIBLES are picking up the Color Annotations from a Bible that does NOT have "Corresponding Notes and Highlights" Checked. It is turned off. WHY is this happening?

Wayne I believe you are misunderstanding the setting and expecting it to work in reverse of what it actually does. Turning off corresponding notes and highlights filter in a resource does not stop it sharing its highlights as you keep saying in the video and in your question above. The setting stops ithe resource in which it is set from picking up highlights/notes from any other resource. The setting affects the resource to which it is applied as to what highlights and notes are seen in that resource alone and does not impact any other resource.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 31 2019 12:30 PM

Reuben Helmuth:

JT (alabama24):
And does that trigger the highlight to appear in all resources (as I would expect)? 

Yes, it does. The reason this is a (generally) bad idea is that it affects all versified resources, which means that the ENTIRE text in commentaries for that milestone will also get highlighted.

Ah. That was what I warned people about for years! Glad (?) to know I was right. Smile 

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 31 2019 1:51 PM

Reuben Helmuth:
Yes, it does. The reason this is a (generally) bad idea is that it affects all versified resources, which means that the ENTIRE text in commentaries for that milestone will also get highlighted.

Yes, and it is extremely irritating

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 31 2019 3:43 PM

Jack Caviness:

Reuben Helmuth:
Yes, it does. The reason this is a (generally) bad idea is that it affects all versified resources, which means that the ENTIRE text in commentaries for that milestone will also get highlighted.

Yes, and it is extremely irritating

But if you continue to use ‘notebooks’ does this give the required granular control to stop them from appearing in versified resources you do not want to see them? Not at a computer to test.

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2019 6:52 AM

DIsciple II:

Jack Caviness:

Reuben Helmuth:
Yes, it does. The reason this is a (generally) bad idea is that it affects all versified resources, which means that the ENTIRE text in commentaries for that milestone will also get highlighted.

Yes, and it is extremely irritating

But if you continue to use ‘notebooks’ does this give the required granular control to stop them from appearing in versified resources you do not want to see them? Not at a computer to test.

I believe the answer is No. However, I would be happy to be proven incorrect in this Stick out tongue

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Wayne levi Price | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2019 1:58 PM

MJ. Smith:

Wayne levi Price:
BUT, the color annotations I make in the Bible with the feature TURNED OFF is still sending the Color annotations to the other Bibles that have the feature turned on.

When you create a note by reference rather than by selection, the corresponding notes and highlights setting is irrelevant.

Thank you - I have noticed that - my big concern right now is being able to highlight some of my Bibles the same way through "Corresponding Notes and highlight" - At the same time, I want to Highlight other Bibles I have with different highlight colors in the same verses. So, I turn OFF the "Corresponding Notes and Highlight" in the Bible I want to Highlight differently than all the others. This succeeds only in BLOCKING the highlight colors from the other Bibles but does not prevent the other Bibles, which have the sharing option turned on, from receiving the highlights from the Bible that has the Sharing option turned off. -- I hope that makes sense - Maybe you can see not why I like to simply make a video to demonstrate what I mean.  Big Smile

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Wayne levi Price | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2019 2:01 PM

Mark Barnes:

MJ. Smith:
When you create a note by reference rather than by selection, the corresponding notes and highlights setting is irrelevant.

By definition, references don't belong to any one version. They belong to all resources that share that reference. So only use this option if you want your note showing in all versions.

Thank you - my big concern right now is being able to highlight some of my Bibles the same way through "Corresponding Notes and highlight" - At the same time, I want to Highlight other Bibles I have with different highlight colors in the same verses. So, I turn OFF the "Corresponding Notes and Highlight" in the Bible I want to Highlight differently than all the others. This succeeds only in BLOCKING the highlight colors from the other Bibles but does not prevent the other Bibles, which have the sharing option turned on, from receiving the highlights from the Bible that has the Sharing option turned off. -- I hope that makes sense - The Video above explains better - 

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Wayne levi Price | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2019 2:03 PM

JT (alabama24):

Mark Barnes:
By definition, references don't belong to any one version. They belong to all resources that share that reference. So only use this option if you want your note showing in all versions.

highlights used to be "notes of selection" by definition. Is that no longer true? 

Not sure what "Notes of selection" means? 

I know if you make a note it is like making a NOTE file.

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Wayne levi Price | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2019 2:07 PM

Kevin:

Wayne the problem is that it does not 'send' to the other bibles, it 'receives' if that option is selected.

If it is not selected, then that bible will not show the highlights from the other bibles.

Eg....If you make a highlight in bible A, it does not matter whether or not the corresponding filter is selected in A....if it is selected in B, then it will show in B. Likewise if corresponding filter is not selected in B, then it will not show in B.

Think of the filter as being 'Show other bibles corresponding highlights'

As per the previous posts above, if it is a reference highlight, eg anchored to "Isaiah 14:13", then the corresponding filter does not apply, however you were highlighting just a specific portion of a verse and were anchored to "Isaiah 14:13 AV 1873", and therefore it would of been a bible specific highlight, which is exactly what the corresponding filter is used for.

Thank you - my big concern right now is being able to highlight some of my Bibles the same way through "Corresponding Notes and highlight" - At the same time, I want to Highlight other Bibles that I have with different highlight colors in the same verses. (not necessarily the reference itself) So, I turn OFF the "Corresponding Notes and Highlight" in the Bible I want to Highlight differently than all the others. This succeeds only in BLOCKING the highlight colors from the other Bibles but does not prevent the other Bibles, which have the sharing option turned on, from receiving the highlights from the Bible that has the Sharing option turned off. -- I hope that makes sense - The Video above explains better - 

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Wayne levi Price | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2019 2:16 PM

DIsciple II:

Wayne levi Price:

My BIBLES are picking up the Color Annotations from a Bible that does NOT have "Corresponding Notes and Highlights" Checked. It is turned off. WHY is this happening?

Wayne I believe you are misunderstanding the setting and expecting it to work in reverse of what it actually does. Turning off corresponding notes and highlights filter in a resource does not stop it sharing its highlights as you keep saying in the video and in your question above. The setting stops ithe resource in which it is set from picking up highlights/notes from any other resource. The setting affects the resource to which it is applied as to what highlights and notes are seen in that resource alone and does not impact any other resource.

Thank you - I want to be able to highlight some Bibles the same way through "Corresponding Notes and highlight" - At the same time, I want to Highlight other Bibles differently - As you have pointed out, the BIBLES that have the Sharing option turned ON will still pick up the colors from all Bibles.

I would love to see this changed, I want my  3 main Bibles to share highlights and the other Bibles to be colored differently without the other Bibles picking up the colors... It does not work that way at the moment. 

Thanks for your comments and help, though. Big Smile

that I have with different highlight colors in the same verses. (not necessarily the reference itself) 

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2019 2:22 PM

Wayne levi Price:

 I want my  3 main Bibles to share highlights and the other Bibles to be colored differently without the other Bibles picking up the colors... It does not work that way at the moment. 

As suggested above, you should be able to use different notebooks to achieve what you are looking for.

If you ensure that highlights from your “other Bibles” are stored in a different notebook to the others then you can disable this notebook from the Corresponding Highlights visual filter in your 3 main Bibles and the highlights won’t be seen in them.

To see if this does what you want, try creating a new highlighting palette and forcing highlights in that palette to go to this new notebook.

If you don’t know how to do this, please advise

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Wayne levi Price | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2019 4:31 PM

Graham Criddle:

Wayne levi Price:

 I want my  3 main Bibles to share highlights and the other Bibles to be colored differently without the other Bibles picking up the colors... It does not work that way at the moment. 

As suggested above, you should be able to use different notebooks to achieve what you are looking for.

If you ensure that highlights from your “other Bibles” are stored in a different notebook to the others then you can disable this notebook from the Corresponding Highlights visual filter in your 3 main Bibles and the highlights won’t be seen in them.

To see if this does what you want, try creating a new highlighting palette and forcing highlights in that palette to go to this new notebook.

If you don’t know how to do this, please advise

Highlighting your Bibels all the same or different from one another. - Is there a solution?

I made New Color Palettes and new notebooks to save each Color palette to.
It appears that it does not matter which color palette or Notebook I am storing the annotations, as long as "corresponding Notes and Colors" is turned on, then that Bible will still pick up the colors from other Bibles that "corresponding Notes and Colors" is TURNED OFF..

Is there a way to share/correspond colors with a group of Bibles and at the same time Color another Bible Uniquely, without having the corresponding Bibles effected by the unique Colors in the other Bible.

Short Video Demonstrates. VIDEO HERE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C43PYEkfPNs

Highlighting your Bibels all the same or different from one another. - Is there a solution?

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