Remarkable Tablet support

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Charity McGill | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Aug 29 2019 3:07 PM

I have recently had the opportunity to work on a Remarkable tablet. It is an entirely new OS, so I know the likelihood of this request being met is low. Still... I'm hoping for some votes over time.

When studying God's word it is completely refreshing to have a distraction-free device. Specifically one that allows you to take notes the way this one does and write in my own handwriting. (My most precious thing I own is a bible with notations in my grandfather's handwriting. And I'd love to pass that kind of thing onto my kids in 'replicate' form.)

However, this would be especially nice when working with Precept bible studies. So I'm throwing a vote for some sort of support with this device. If only for the following: ePub file of the bible combined with quick links to the interlinear definitions, the ability to publish my notes back to logos so that I can find them later. Bonus points if I can actually use the precept bible markings while in there so they transfer back and forth.

Pretty please.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 29 2019 6:38 PM

Welcome to the forums! Smile I am sorry to bring bad news: 

Charity McGill:
I know the likelihood of this request being met is low

Charity McGill:
I'm throwing a vote for some sort of support with this device.

It isn't low. It is nill. ("So, there's a chance?" Smile )

Charity McGill:
It is an entirely new OS

It isn't "new." It has been around for at least 2 years... and has "over 50,000 sold!" iOS and android are both likely to sell more devices each and every day. 

Charity McGill:
ePub file of the bible combined with quick links to the interlinear definitions, the ability to publish my notes back to logos so that I can find them later.

None of the later will ever happen. 

It does appear that you could possibly import resources from Logos. Steps: 

  • Use the "print" feature to export portions of the text to a .docx file. You may have to do this several times to do the entire book. HINT: Use the largest paper size and smallest text size.
  • Make any necessary changes and convert the .docx file to epub or .pdf.  

It isn't hard to do the conversion. NOTE: there will be no interconnectivity with Logos. Everything will be ever only in the "remarkable tablet" format, which is likely to go out of business at some point. 

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Charity McGill | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 30 2019 8:57 AM

I'm doing the conversion for now. I wouldn't want to wish someone out of business, so I really hope they make a go of it. If they make it past 5 years, we'll know if their customers really love them and their idea is right. 2 years is very new, but I see a lot of loyalty and a lot of repeat customers. I really love not being distracted by tech when I'm spending time with God. No dinging. No 'vibrant screen glaring', etc. I also like it in meetings and in planning sessions. 

Like a said... long shot. But on the off chance it gains momentum in the coming years, I wanted to add a place for other people to join in all the same. I know it wouldn't make sense now... 

They store edits in layers like a PDF. So maybe someday that software will get smart enough to make it easier to at least transfer the layers back and forth between the two programs. They've made a lot of improvements, so I'm encouraged. I'd really love for the links in the interlinear Greek and Hebrew to transfer over in my conversion to the word doc... those are just extremely convenient for study. But that would be like combining multiple docs together in the export, etc... I'll have to settle for searching on multiple tabs for now or popping open my mobile app briefly and hoping for alerts to be at 'minimum'.

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Tony Walker | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 2 2020 2:53 PM

The last thing I need to do is spend $400 on the new Remarkable 2, but I was curious if anyone on the forums had experience with one. I would love to see any pics or videos of it from a Bible student perspective. 

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 2 2020 3:00 PM

Tony Walker:

The last thing I need to do is spend $400 on the new Remarkable 2, but I was curious if anyone on the forums had experience with one. I would love to see any pics or videos of it from a Bible student perspective. 

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count me interested! Since I've seen someone taking notes on a Remarkable 1 in a business meeting, I thought that's a nice thing to have. But what really to do with it except taking notes and reading ePubs?  

Edit: they write that the ReMarkable 2 has an experimental web browser (and nothing more about it, probably to not disturb the message of "getting into the creativity zone not distracted by anything else") - if Logos Web App was running on it, that would be interesting. And do away with converting everything to ePub and pdf.  

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Tony Walker | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 2 2020 3:02 PM

I had not given it much thought. Then somehow I saw an ad for the Remarkable 2, and then I remembered that a long time ago Mike Hesier shared a social media post about the product that jogged my memory. I watched the video the other day for the new one and I thought wow, thats cool. 

We live in a day were a cool video makes me want to buy something that is almost as realistic as a 1cent piece of paper and a 25 cent pencil. lol

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Charity McGill | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 10 2020 1:15 PM

I've had mine 6 months...  I bought it fully intending to send it back. I didn't even buy a case for it at the time and kept most of the materials boxed up ready to go. They give you a risk free trial.

Fast forward 6th months with the newness worn off... and it has become a device I carry with me as MUCH as I carry my phone and I never carry a tablet. 

I use it for marking up text, note taking and journaling. I've tried a tablet. It isn't the same. Until you try it, I can't explain why. I carry it with me because I'm really surprised by how many times I want to mark something up and send it during the course of a day. And how MUCH easier it is to do on this. The syncing process is so smooth, it's faster to import it into the app on my phone, make a change with a pen, sync it and email it back out. Yes, you can do that with a tablet, but this thing is SUPER lightweight.

Despite all my BEST efforts and over a decade of technology that enables you to mark up from a 'glass screen' device, I have NEVER reached for the tech before a plain old paper and pencil. I have worked for tech companies my whole life. Interestingly enough, I've never seen my tech/developer colleagues do it either. White boards are the FIRST thing they put up when they put in their home offices. 

I have heard that some people are 'tactile' learners. I think I'm one of those. If I'm SERIOUS about learning or understanding something, I have a blank sheet and a pen in front of me. I can't think of anything I'm more serious about understanding or learning than God's word. 

Do I wish it integrated more with logos?... absolutely. But just think of it as mobile paper. Rather than carrying different notebooks to my different bible classes, I just have a different folder in there. Rather than carrying my bible, I have a different folder in the device. I can start with a fresh version of a bible book PDF at any time and mark it up specific to some other topic I'm learning. It feels EXACTLY like paper. It's weird because you can choose to write with 'pen' or with 'pencil' using a setting on the device and it actually feels different when you write. Even the difference between a 'sharp pencil' and a 'dull pencil'. I have NO idea how they did that. But it's very cool. 

Since purchase, their software upgrades have been pretty great. Unlike an iPad... The device was out SEVEN years before they did a device upgrade, with every enhancement being delivered via software. I suspect that it will be similar for the second one. There were some things, such as the placement of the buttons, that they couldn't really fix without a new device. The button placement is RIGHT at the bottom, so sometimes my hand accidentally presses it when writing. I am saying this because my biggest complaint right now is not being able to review a document and write in another document at the same time. That's been annoying because I want to look at my handwritten bible notes, and journal based on those. I fully expect this is a software change and not a device change. I've received some GREAT enhancements in the last 6 months since purchase and I fully expect to see more later... that one included. 

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Tony Walker | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 10 2020 1:18 PM

Do you know if it supports PDF links (if that is the way to put it)? For example, the recent ESV journaling Bible PDF that Crossway came out with maybe 3 montsh ago or so, it has a little button in the top left of each page that will take you back to the list of bible books and chapters. Any thoughts on that?

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 10 2020 2:08 PM

NB.Mick:
the ReMarkable 2 has an experimental web browser
seems I misread that. All I can find now is some non-detailed info about a Chrome plugin that makes websites into ePub documents that can then be synced to the RM2 :-( What a waste. According to user forums, everything is there under the hood - for the WLAN connectivity - but it seems unless either the software is opened up by the producers or someone brings about a jailbreak, this really is not going to support Logos in any way.

Marking up a PDF bible is a step forward from marking up paper, but it still is not where I think I want to go.   

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Charity McGill | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 19 2020 1:33 PM

Sadly... it does not. That is really what is missing in being able to publish some documents with intelligence to it. It DOES have the ability to view the pages and go back and forth. However, I setup my 'bible' as folders for each book I'm studying. Then split the PDF of the book up into multiple notebooks within the folder...

So my Precept folder has sub folders for the books i'm working through or the particular study I'm working on.

MATTHEW         JOHN        1 TIMOTHY            BEING A DISCIPLE              1 2 3 JOHN

Within each folder, there is a separate PDF document containing several chapters of that book of the bible, along with my study guide template and the scanned version of the study itself...

MATTHEW 1-14         MATTHEW 14 - END            LESSON 1             LESSON 2             STUDY TEMPLATES

When I do observation, I mark up my chapter. When I go to my Study Template, I keep a version of that marked up passage on the app on another device... usually my phone... so I can see my markings at the same time I'm working through my template. (This is my HUGE complaint, I wish I could see more than one document at once.) HOWEVER, treating my secondary device as an actual secondary device somehow changes how I use it and I am not as tempted to also answer that last text that just came in.... I use the logos app on my phone to do some of my immediate discovery. Later, because it syncs with an app I have on my desktop and on my phone, I have access to what I did in seconds to do more work from my computer and the logos app on my desktop.

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Charity McGill | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 19 2020 1:44 PM

yep... I agree... this isn't going to really work with Logos the way I'd love to work with it. But... I'm finding the more I use it that it doesn't have to like I had hoped. I now treat Logos as my 'portable research library' and keep no real 'notating' in it. My Remarkable is my thinking, planning and creating tool. Like a 'notebook'... but on steroids because I can import things I want to note on. Because they both sync to my desktop, when I'm ready to do something more formal, I just bring up both environments and merge what I need. 

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 19 2020 1:49 PM

Thanks for sharing your experience, that helps a lot.

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