Search within the LouwNida Greek Lexicon

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Jim Davis | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Sep 6 2019 9:43 AM

Hello Friends,

I am running Logos 8 and would like to search for all occurrences of a particular Greek word within the entire LouwNida Greek Lexicon.  The word I am searching for is the Greek word desmios which occurs in Philemon 1.  

The search query I have tried is  <Lemma = lbs/el/δέσμιος>WITHIN<LouwNida> with no success.

I have searched the wiki and the community forum for an answer but have not found one.  I tried calling Logos support and they were unable to provide one.  Does anyone know how to search for all occurrences of a Greek word in all the domains in which that word may appear in Louw-Nida?

Thanks in advance for your guidance

Jim Davis, Affiliate Associate Professor of New Testament

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Phil Quigley | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 6 2019 9:55 AM

You may not be having success because LouwNida is not morphologically tagged. I just tried with the web app and you should be able to have Louw Nida open in and run a search on all open resources.  The search I ran returned that your lemma is at 37.117.

37.117 δέσμιος, ου m; δεσμώτης, ου m: (derivatives of δεσμόςb ‘to be in prison,’ 37.115) a person who is under custody in prison—‘prisoner.’
δέσμιος: κατὰ δὲ ἑορτὴν εἰώθει ὁ ἡγεμὼν ἀπολύειν ἕνα τῷ ὅχλῳ δέσμιον ὃν ἤθελον ‘at every (Passover) feast the governor was in the habit of setting free any prisoner the crowd asked for’ Mt 27:15.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 6 2019 10:17 AM

Jim Davis:
within the entire LouwNida Greek Lexicon

This calls for an inline search of the resource

I ran desmios OR δέσμιος OR <Lemma = lbs/el/δέσμιος> but since the lexicon isn't morphologically tagged, the third part, lemma, is not giving hits. And since it's not transliterated, the first part, desmios, isn't either. 

δέσμιος occurs four times, twice in its own entry 37.117, once in 89.60 (citing Eph 3:1) and once in the second part, the lemma list, referring to LN domain 37.117

Unfortunately, you'd need to look into an analytical lexicon to find potential morphological forms and then search for those.   

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Steve Maling | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 6 2019 11:06 AM

Hello, Jim,

Undoubtedly you already know about Volume 2, "the other half", of Louw-Nida which places many words in different domains according to sense. But perhaps someone who sees this thread does not know what to make of the superscript letters following many Greek words. When I go to δεσμιος in Volume 1 at 37.117 I find it described as a derivative of δεσμος which is followed by a superscript b. Clicking on that superscript b takes me to δεσμος in Volume 2 which is shown to have three senses and is preceded and followed by several several words sharing its root.

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