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Mike Tourangeau | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Sep 10 2019 8:29 AM

Every now and then I stumble across an "Excursus" in a commentary and I find it helpful to the text I am working through, but also in regards to other themes and subjects

It would be helpful if they were tagged much like journals, maybe tagged according to topics (?).

If you do a search you will see that you likely have a treasure trove of untapped information........it would be great if they were tagged.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 10 2019 8:48 AM

Mike, I did the search in my library and now I see what you mean. What a wealth of information that would be easy to miss.

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Lonnie Spencer | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 10 2019 10:08 AM

Mike Tourangeau:

Every now and then I stumble across an "Excursus" in a commentary and I find it helpful to the text I am working through, but also in regards to other themes and subjects

It would be helpful if they were tagged much like journals, maybe tagged according to topics (?).

If you do a search you will see that you likely have a treasure trove of untapped information........it would be great if they were tagged.

One work around that may work until they are tagged would be: say one was studying the topic, temple, for example, then your search "heading:excursus" could be expanded to "heading:excursus NEAR temple". Open all of the search results. Open a bibliography document and open the "add" button. Select add all open resources. Go into the panel menu and select "make collection". This will automatically make a collection for you. You could title the collection Excursus- Temple. It would be available then for other future searches. This would work for whatever topic you are working on and searching just in the excursus.  

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 10 2019 10:20 PM

Mike Tourangeau:
Every now and then I stumble across an "Excursus" in a commentary and I find it helpful to the text I am working through, but also in regards to other themes and subjects

Very useful, Mike.

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Mike Tourangeau | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 11 2019 5:53 AM

Lonnie Spencer:
One work around that may work until they are tagged would be: say one was studying the topic, temple, for example, then your search "heading:excursus" could be expanded to "heading:excursus NEAR temple". Open all of the search results. Open a bibliography document and open the "add" button. Select add all open resources. Go into the panel menu and select "make collection". This will automatically make a collection for you. You could title the collection Excursus- Temple. It would be available then for other future searches. This would work for whatever topic you are working on and searching just in the excursus.  

That would work.....a little convoluted, but would work. Thanks

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Adam Borries (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 12 2019 10:20 AM

Mike Tourangeau:
Every now and then I stumble across an "Excursus" in a commentary and I find it helpful to the text I am working through, but also in regards to other themes and subjects.

Today I learned. Smile

Lonnie Spencer:
your search "heading:excursus" could be expanded to "heading:excursus NEAR temple"

This seems useful. I'm not sure I follow the benefit of turning the resulting resources into a collection. What other searches would you want to limit to that collection? 

You could also leverage excursuses specifically on the text you are studying by searching within a Bible reference milestone. For example:  

heading:excursus WITHIN {Milestone <Mark 9:2-12>}

or broader

excursus WITHIN {Milestone <Mark 9:2-12>}

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Lonnie Spencer | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 12 2019 11:32 AM

Hey Adam,

What I did was make an "excursus collection" of all the excursus in my library, opening each result and using the biography tool to make a collection. Out of my small library- 2,500 resources- I found 135 resources that contained at least one excursus. The resources that contained the most excursus were the commentaries. The reason I did this was that I find the excursus are more in-depth then the general commentary. Sometimes I want to go deeper with what an excursus would provide. If I have a topic (I chose temple as an example) I want to search in-depth, I can search on the excursus collection alone without getting all of the hits from the general comments in a book. If it is a topic I regularly visit, I may make a topic- excursus collection just for that task. If I don't want or need to go to the depth of the excursus then I have that option also. I agree that it would be much easier if the excursus was tagged. They certainly give wonderful, and unfortunanly, often neglected insights. 

Thanks for the milestone search idea.   

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 12 2019 3:46 PM

Adam - your post is worth turning into a blog as it is an excellent example of how to use Logos search elements.

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Justin Gatlin | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 12 2019 4:07 PM

I think that including relevant excursus to the "Lemma in Passage" tool and the Factbook would be very cool.

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Mike Tourangeau | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 13 2019 9:11 PM

This is all very interesting. Even if there was a {Milestone Excursus} this would enable searching within a milestone.

I.e." temple WITHIN {Milestone Excursus}"

Regardless....we have it easy with Logos! I can search 5,000 books in a few seconds. I have commentaries by world class authors at my finger tips. THANK YOU!

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 14 2019 9:55 AM

Mike Tourangeau:

Even if there was a {Milestone Excursus} this would enable searching within a milestone.

I.e." temple WITHIN {Milestone Excursus}"

It would be a Headword; not a Milestone  i.e. temple WITHIN {Headword excursus}

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