Bibliographic citation lacking date, original publisher, etc

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Greg Reader | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Jun 16 2010 4:50 PM

When I copy text from WBC 1 Kings into a word processing document, and when I look up its bibliographic information in my library or in a clipping, Thomas Nelson is not shown as the publisher, the date of publication is not included, and neither Turabian nor Chicago Manual of Style format is followed exactly. Here's a sample:

DeVries, Simon J. Word Biblical Commentary : 1 Kings (Second Edition). 286 p.; Word Biblical Comm, p 160. Dallas: Word, Inc.

Thanks for any insight.

Greg

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Alan Macgregor | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 17 2010 4:42 PM

GregReader:
Thomas Nelson is not shown as the publisher

Greg

That's because Thomas Nelson isn't the publisher of WBC, Word, Inc are.

I am not familiar with Chicago or Turabian, I use SBL Handbook of Style and it does produce the date but even so the citation is a bit peculiar in layout.

Robert A. Guelich, vol. 34A, Word Biblical Commentary : Mark 1-8:26 (, Word Biblical CommentaryDallas: Word, Incorporated, 2002), 3.

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Greg Reader | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 17 2010 4:51 PM

Thanks Alan. Strange. When I choose SBL it still shows no publication date. Also, the Title Page shows Thomas Nelson as the publisher:

 

Word Biblical Commentary

1 Kings: Second Edition

Copyright © 2003 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.

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Greg Reader | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 17 2010 4:52 PM

Perhaps it's just an issue with the 1 Kings volume ...

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Alan Macgregor | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 17 2010 5:02 PM

Greg

I don't have 1st Kings in Logos but I do in print and it is published by Word, Inc. However, I seem to remember that when WBC first became available in Logos 2 it was available via Thomas Nelson as part of their Nelson Unlock Library published in 2 volumes in 1999. (I've just dug out the disks, how sad is that?)

Perhaps that explains why your WBC still has traces of the "Nelson touch". Smile

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Greg Reader | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 17 2010 5:15 PM

That makes sense. Thanks! I checked my WBC Mark and it has the date of publication in the bibliographic info regardless of style.

Thanks again.

Greg

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Seth Hewitt | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 17 2010 7:31 PM

Just so you all know, the current (i.e. revised) volumes of WBC are indeed published by Thomas Nelson. I'm looking at a printed copy of volume 24, Isaiah 1–33, (Revised Edition) by John D. W. Watts. It is © 2005 by Thomas Nelson, Inc. and is an imprint of their Nelson Reference and Electronic division. Nelson bought Word in 1992, but continued to use the Word name until 2002. After that, W Publishing Group or Thomas Nelson. So, there you have it.

Seth

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Greg Reader | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 18 2010 6:42 AM

Thanks. So Logos does need to update their automatic citation feature then?

Greg

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Thomas Ball | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 21 2010 2:08 PM

Seth:

Are you copying from Isaiah 1-33 or Isaiah 1-33 (Revised Edition) because the footnotes for each display as 2002 and 2005 respectively.

 

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Greg Reader | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 21 2010 3:55 PM

I'm copying from Word Biblical Commentary 1 Kings

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Seth Hewitt | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 21 2010 4:50 PM

Tommy, neither. I was reading from the hardcopy book. I don't have any of the revised Word commentaries on my machine; all the volumes I own have the 2002 date. I was just noting the reason for the change: Tommy Nelson now owns Word; Word no longer exists.

Seth

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