Bible sense search 'remember'

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danwdoo | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Sep 17 2019 4:37 AM

Hello.

I've reviewed the wiki for search on Bible Sense searches and I'm having trouble with a search. I want to find all the senses of 'remember' but am coming up with nothing when I enter a search with:

<Sense = remember>

I would expect it would at least return every verse with the base word remember in it even if it did not find any other sense words. Am I missing something?

Also, when I go back to edit the search, the cursor drags incredibly slow while I change the search terms and I am using a very powerful computer. Is this expected?

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John Fidel | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 17 2019 4:50 AM

The easiest way to find and search for senses if you are not working within a specific pericope is to open a bible word study guide and type the word in and open the senses section. If you note below there are several senses dealing with remember. I think for your search to work you need to use one of them, probably "to remember".

If you are working within a pericope and have the information window open you will see the sense and can right click, select the sense from he context menu and run a search. 

Screenshots below:

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danwdoo | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 17 2019 5:09 AM

OK, so I see the sense has to match an existing 'periscope', which I assume is like a specific context. 

I see when it built the search this way it omitted an equals sign (<Sense to be remembered>). Is equals assumed if no sign is entered? I read a tilde is an option to get a more broad match of (around) a meaning.

I experimented to see that I could add God as the one remembering with the search: 

<Person God> AND <Sense to remember>

Can I add a target to the remembering such as 'You'?

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John Fidel | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 17 2019 12:50 PM

danwdoo:

OK, so I see the sense has to match an existing 'periscope', which I assume is like a specific context. 

The sense just needs to match the label. The easiest way to find those specific labels is through the bible word study guide or through a pericope that you are studying.

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 17 2019 1:26 PM

danwdoo:

OK, so I see the sense has to match an existing 'periscope', which I assume is like a specific context. 

It does not have to match a pericope‘s surface text  but your search has to match the labels in the ‘Sense Dataset’ to get results from it.

If you have not already check out: “Bible Sense Lexicon: Dataset Documentation” in your Logos library for a little bit more information about the dataset and it’s usage and limitation.

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 17 2019 4:40 PM

danwdoo:

I see when it built the search this way it omitted an equals sign (<Sense to be remembered>). Is equals assumed if no sign is entered? I read a tilde is an option to get a more broad match of (around) a meaning.

Including the equals sign means it will return only results with that exact label. If you exclude it additional results we be returned from other entries lower in the branch of the dense tree for that label.

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danwdoo | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 17 2019 9:34 PM

Great, than you both. This gives me some new things to work on so that is helpful.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 17 2019 10:06 PM

danwdoo:

I want to find all the senses of 'remember' but am coming up with nothing when I enter a search with:

<Sense = remember>

Suggestion is opening Bible Sense Lexicon

Search (<sense to remember> OR <sense to remember (recall)>) finds three out of the eight "remember" senses

danwdoo:

I experimented to see that I could add God as the one remembering with the search: 

<Person God> AND <Sense to remember>

Proximity search can find terms closer to each other. Searching for AND finds both terms in one verse. A search that finds eight "remember" senses closer to (God OR Jesus) is:

(<Person God> OR <Person Jesus>) WITHIN 7 WORDS (<sense to remember> OR <sense to remember (recall)> OR <sense to cause to be remembered> OR <sense to be remembered> OR <sense to remember and respond> OR <sense to be remembered ⇔ come up>)

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