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Tim Hensler | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Nov 25 2019 6:42 AM

Beta 2; 8.10.0.0006; Windows 10

I tried to un-hide the following four resources with results as indicted under each:

World Fact Book 1996

  • No longer on Logos.com
  • I did have and use this in the past, but hid it a long time ago.
  • I think I owned this.

The Zend-Avesta

  • Available on Logos.com, but indicates I don’t own it

Regarding each of the above individually:

  • I clicked “x” on hidden resource
  • Name of resource disappeared from hidden list
  • Never downloaded
  • Never indexed
  • Never increased the resource count in the Library
  • Never showed up in the library
  • Restarting Logos made no difference

Treasury of Scripture Knowledge

Listed twice in the hidden resources list. I un-hid both together as outlined below.

  • Clicked “x” on both hidden resources
  • Name of resources disappeared from hidden list
  • Logos said it was “updating library Catalog”
  • Blue icon in top-right corner of screen said Preparing library
  • “updating library Catalog” disappeared from library
  • Blue icon indicated Updates available
  • I downloaded the updates
  • Logos said it was “updating library Catalog”
  • Indexing started
  • Clicked Library icon - resource count incremented only by one (not two)
  • The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge listed in library once
  • Blue icon said two resources were downloaded:
  • The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge TSK
  • The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge
  • Clicked on each and they each opened separately
  • In Library, opened “last updated > today” and “Added > Last 7 days” facets - each only showed one resource added: The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge TSK

Support Info for both:

The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge (no short title)

LLS:26.0.1

2014-10-18T23:01:43Z

TSK.logos4

  • Can not open this using LLS:26.0.1 in the Go box (LLS:TSK2008 does find the other resource below)
  • Not listed on Logos.com
  • QUESTION; How can I remove from my device if it is not listed in my library?

The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge TSK

LLS:TSK2008

2014-10-16T03:23:58Z

TSK2008.logos4

  • This is the one that opens from the library
  • Logos.com shows I own this

Question:

  • Apparently even though I owned the World Fact Book and the The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge (with no short title), they seemed to be lost while in the Hidden Resources list. How can this be if a resources once owned is always owned?

Request

  • I don’t know if I ever owned “The Zend-Avesta” - since Logos.com says I didn’t own it, maybe it was a free preview resource that I put in the Hidden Resources list. It would have been nice if when it was removed from my library (after the preview period) it was also removed from the hidden resource list so I don’t think I lost something I bought.

Please confirm:

  1. Hidden resources are removed from the local device and from the library index, basically making the resource unknown by the Logos app (except it is in the Hidden Resources list so it can be re-added to the local device and library index).
  2. Resources removed from device removes the resource from the local device but it remains in the library index for reference under “cloud resources” in search results and guides.
  3. Question: Which would be best if I want to minimize the impact un-needed resources have on the Logos app - including index size and file storage?  (I have a large library and want to help Logos run as fast/efficiently as possible.)

Thank you for your help.

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Thomas Ball | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 25 2019 9:51 AM

Hi Tim,

The Treasure of Scripture Knowledge is working as expected. We were unable to make corrections to the older resource (LLS:26.0.1), and so instead, it was replaced by the later resource (LLS:TSK2008). There is no value in seeing LLS:26.0.1 in your library if you also own LLS:TSK2008, and so we hide the old one if you own both.

  1. Hidden resources - Correct.
  2. Resources removed from device - Mostly correct. I can't think of any place in the Guides that will use cloud resources, but I might be missing something.
  3. Which would be best - I would generally recommend removing resources from the device rather than hiding them. If you want to experiment with the implications of removing instead of hiding, you could make a backup copy of your resources folder. Then mark a significant portion of your library as could (exactly which resources are marked is less important for this experiment than how many). Then after you are done, mark all resources as local, exit the application, and copy the resources folder back so that you won't need to download them all again.

I'm going to reach out to you offline regarding World Fact Book 1996 and The Zend-Avesta.

 

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Tim Hensler | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 25 2019 12:31 PM

Thomas Ball:
I'm going to reach out to you offline regarding World Fact Book 1996 and The Zend-Avesta.

Thanks Thomas.  I got your email and replayed back.

The "New Treasure of Scripture Knowledge" as well as the Treasure of Scripture Knowledge TSK (LLS:TSK2008) show up in the Cross Reference section of passage-based Guides, but the old one (LLS:26.0.1) does not.

However, the old one (LLS:26.0.1) is apparently still in my library because it still opens when I click on a link that I created in the Shortcut Bar (even though this resource is not listed in my library). 

Question: Is there a way to remove old one (LLS:26.0.1) from my library?  (I'm a retired systems guy who likes to keep things clean, and a rogue resource is something I'd like to get rid of, if possible.  If there isn't a straight forward way, I can live with it.)

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Tim Hensler:
The "New Treasure of Scripture Knowledge" as well as the Treasure of Scripture Knowledge TSK (LLS:TSK2008) show up in the Cross Reference section of passage-based Guides, but the old one (LLS:26.0.1) does not.

Correct. As far as the application is concerned, LLS:26.0.1 is not in your library. (See below for why this sounds strange.)

Tim Hensler:
However, the old one (LLS:26.0.1) is apparently still in my library because it still opens when I click on a link that I created in the Shortcut Bar (even though this resource is not listed in my library). 

Also correct. Due to the order that resources were discovered, the old resource downloaded first, then the new resource downloaded and the reference to the old one was removed from your library. The old resource file was left in place, but is still registered in a way that allows it to be opened if you have an reference directly to the resource. So, it's not in your library, but the resource file can be opened.

Tim Hensler:
Question: Is there a way to remove old one (LLS:26.0.1) from my library?  (I'm a retired systems guy who likes to keep things clean, and a rogue resource is something I'd like to get rid of, if possible.  If there isn't a straight forward way, I can live with it.)

You can delete the resource file from your resources folder. You are looking for the file: TSK.logos4

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Tim Hensler | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 26 2019 10:35 AM

Thank you Thomas and Andrew.

Got it all worked out.

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