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Lee Gordon | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 2 2020 7:22 AM

JT (alabama24):

Lee Gordon:
Hendrickson may own the copyright to the version they revised, but I don't think that applies to all versions.

No, you are right. But that is the point. The version that FL is using IS copyrighted. It isn't the public domain version. Hence the $50 includes whatever fee the publisher charges FL. 

Logos chooses which versions of the resource they make available. The free, public domain version has already been digitized. Is it that there's no one who has offered to make that available on Logos, or is it that Logos has chosen to market a version that generates more revenue?

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 2 2020 7:40 AM

Develop a feature that can read resources in the app on the mobile platform. Like to listen to my books while driving on waiting inline. 

Even the mechanical voice in Windows 10 is adequate. Just make sure that it knows that Rev. 1:1 means Revelation chapter 1 vs 1. LEB should read Lexham Bible Dictionary.

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Andrew | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 2 2020 9:23 AM

Lynden Williams:

Develop a feature that can read resources in the app on the mobile platform. Like to listen to my books while driving on waiting inline. 

Even the mechanical voice in Windows 10 is adequate. Just make sure that it knows that Rev. 1:1 means Revelation chapter 1 vs 1. LEB should read Lexham Bible Dictionary.

The UserVoice feature request has been marked as "Started" for years... Very frustrating: https://logosmobile.uservoice.com/forums/190765-logos-mobile-apps/suggestions/3671914-enable-read-aloud-or-text-to-speech-like-in-the-de

It is the fourth most requested mobile feature.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 2 2020 9:59 AM

Lee Gordon:
Logos chooses which versions of the resource they make available. The free, public domain version has already been digitized. Is it that there's no one who has offered to make that available on Logos, or is it that Logos has chosen to market a version that generates more revenue?

  1. The version Logos uses was likely created a LONG time ago. Very likely before another public domain version was digitized. 
  2. Logos doesn't allow others to "make available" other versions of resources. They intend (as a general rule) to carry only one version of a resource.
  3. "Cost more" ≠ "generate more revenue" [for Logos].
  4. The version in Logos may indeed "generate more revenue" if it is a better resource (I don't know and can't speak on it). 

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Robert Kelbe | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 2 2020 10:55 AM

Dennis Davis:

Hi Phil, 

Great thread.  One of my primary pet peeves is with the guides.  If you follow a guide through each step by the time you reach the end, you've got a huge number of notes icons in your passage.  I think a good idea would be to simply have one note icon show up for each passage in which a guide is used.  This will still allow people to see the icon and refer back to the full guide but will de-clutter the passage landscape. 

Cheers and Happy New Year! 

I agree... I don't think they have to change the architecture of the workflow (though I wish they didn't proliferate notebooks!), but rather they could change the way consecutive notes are rendered. Whenever there are multiple note icons in a row, they should collapse them into a single multiple-note icon that you could hover over or click to see the individual notes.

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 2 2020 11:57 AM

Phil Gons (Faithlife):

We've reviewed the User Voice feedback for desktop, mobile, and books, but I want to make sure that the priorities there are reflective of the current priorities of our forum community.

Thanks for taking the time to share your feedback!

Just a BUMP for better integration of Media options between Faithlife programs. I search within Proclaim for "Judges" and I find this nice grey/gold template in Proclaim Pro Media. I search for the same background from within the Sermon Editor and I only get an option for the "Samson" template.

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Michel Pauw | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 2 2020 5:35 PM

Mark Barnes:

I appreciate that to sell upgrades to Logos 9 you need something new, but I don't think that's what Logos needs right now.

My focus would be on consolidating datasets and tools and improving existing features.

Amen!

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Michel Pauw | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 2 2020 5:38 PM

Add full bibliographic information to clippings, to make them useful for researching.

See thread.

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 2 2020 6:12 PM

Just read that the CSB audio bible does not sync with the text.

To clarify my previous wish, I hope that any future Hebrew audio bible would include the necessary sync markers that would let the text follow along with the audio.

Thanks for considering how important the read along feature should be for future audio bibles.

My top three Logos 9 Wishlist items: Carta, Dark mode, and Hebrew audio bible, please.

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Lee Gordon | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 2 2020 6:51 PM

Michel Pauw:

Add full bibliographic information to clippings, to make them useful for researching.

See thread.

Yes. I love how you can get automatic bibliography when you copy text. The more this is refined, the better.

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Levi Durfey | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 3 2020 4:47 AM

Phil Gons (Faithlife):
What improvements should we make to existing features?

Give us the option to use abbreviated Bible references in the reference box so we don't have this issue: 

See here: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/184807/1064514.aspx#1064514 

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John Fidel | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 3 2020 7:28 AM

Levi Durfey:

Phil Gons (Faithlife):
What improvements should we make to existing features?

Give us the option to use abbreviated Bible references in the reference box so we don't have this issue: 

See here: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/184807/1064514.aspx#1064514 

That could also be remedied if the icons on the tab allowed for the reference window to be at full size all the time. I think it is a wrapping issue with the icons and a better use of space when the tabs get condensed.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 3 2020 1:09 PM

SineNomine:

How many verses/chapters may be crossed on the basis of proximity?  Are you limiting AND/OR, BEFORE/AFTER (with no proximity) to a single verse/chapter? Morph Query allows you to specify the number of verses for all operators, so that proximity has to be within that boundary. But it comes at a cost, as it requires the search to be conducted on fast servers with a restricted number of (original language) resources. So if you want a Morph Search to cross verse boundaries, it would need the option of an article/chapter boundary without major changes to Indexing. Whether it could retain the presentation of results by verse(s) is another matter.

I don't see the value in searching across chapters/articles, and Searching becomes inefficient if articles (defined by the Indexer) are too large.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 3 2020 3:17 PM

Dave Hooton:
I don't see the value in searching across chapters/articles, and Searching becomes inefficient if articles (defined by the Indexer) are too large.

I agree with you on texts which had articles/chapters in the original texts. I don't agree for texts such as the Bible where the chapters and verses are later, arbitrary additions. In the latter case, some arbitrary (or settable) length such as 1000 words could be used. 

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James Neuendorf | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 4 2020 6:21 AM

I would like to see the next version of Logos focus on giving you various ways of organizing your library and notes, and more intuitive markup features. I use all digital books because I serve on the foreign mission field and hauling books is nearly impossible, but I miss having a physical library.

1. I would love it if there was a "hand markup" mode which could be used to set a reader page and text size and then to be able to use a stylus on tablet to make hand notes on a layer above that. Or at LEAST, a way to set up the books so that they had a wide commenting margin which tracked with the text, these could then be folded into the notes feature as drawings/handwritten notes. Bonus if it lets us import handwritten notes we have already written elsewhere. 

2. I do not like the way that "collections" work, they try to be too automatic and are buried in the menus as an old feature, you can't do much with them.  I would love to see a "shelves" feature that lets me grab books that I'm currently perusing and put them into a visual collection according to whatever logic I want. I would really love it if they implemented some kind of a simulated "stacks" of your library, with the covers and the page count determining the size of the books. You could then lay out your shelves however you wanted in a "Library" module, or according to their actual locations in a Dewey Decimal system. I think one thing people forget is so useful about a physical library is that you often find other books of use sitting next to the one you were actually searching for, and the laser precision of the library search engine in Logos makes it so precise that I often miss other books I should page through. This could even work to sell more books, show me other books that would have been on the shelf if I bought them.

3. I want, no I need, full PDF (with search) integration into logos. The number of academic journals and important materials which are freely available in PDF format is astounding, and this is the final missing piece in logos with regard to academic use. The journals on offer in the logos format are a very limited selection. At the very least, if you could add a plugin for something like mendeley so that we could query our pdf database as part of a logos search. 

4. Reading plans need to be able to generate a plan based on a longer reading list than a single book. 

5. Ability to attach notes to "things", "persons" etc, not just bible references. The data is already there, this should be simple, but would allow me for example to keep all my notes on "Peter" to follow Peter wherever he appears in the text, or more specifically, my extensive notes on oil lamps whenever a lamp is lit in a text. 

6. The atlas feature is very badly in need of a complete rebuild, the level of detail it provides, even with several good purchased resources is not useful beyond lay bible study. I have traveled extensively in the Holy Land and have a lot of notes on individual archaelogical sites etc. I would like to be able to mark up the maps, and they need a far closer level of detail. I don't just want to be able to use atlas resources that I buy, but actually add my own layers. The research has been done enough that we ought to have functional detailed and modifiable maps of Jerusalem, places like Capernaum where we have the streets, etc. from the archaeology. I often have such maps in my library because of resources I own, but they are not able to integrate into the atlas. Let me drop a copy of the madaba map on the landscape for example and toggle it on or off. The ability to add and pin our own maps to a base GPS coordinate system would go a long ways towards this. For a random example, I would like to pin notes about the types of trees and animals which might be found in a particular area of the desert to that place, so that later when I am following the route of a Biblical character through that same place, my notes about the environment would be available there. This might seem like unnecessary detail, but it is what you discover by walking through these places. I also don't always agree with Faithlife on where an event took place, and would like the option to pin a text to a location on my own. 

7. When working in multiple languages it is a bit annoying that for example in my Spanish Bible it won't recognize if I type the references in Spanish, I have to type them in English, same for Greek. It should recognize the reference whatever language I type it in, at least for a resource in that language. 

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Kelly Kagoshima | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 4 2020 6:49 AM

Im wondering if you could add the Horner Reading plan to your reading plans so i can have a checklist and read on my phone 

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Charlene | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 4 2020 7:00 AM

James Neuendorf:
3. I want, no I need, full PDF (with search) integration into logos. The number of academic journals and important materials which are freely available in PDF format is astounding, and this is the final missing piece in logos with regard to academic use. The journals on offer in the logos format are a very limited selection. At the very least, if you could add a plugin for something like mendeley so that we could query our pdf database as part of a logos search. 

Yes

James Neuendorf:
6. The atlas feature is very badly in need of a complete rebuild, the level of detail it provides, even with several good purchased resources is not useful beyond lay bible study. I have traveled extensively in the Holy Land and have a lot of notes on individual archaelogical sites etc. I would like to be able to mark up the maps, and they need a far closer level of detail. I don't just want to be able to use atlas resources that I buy, but actually add my own layers. The research has been done enough that we ought to have functional detailed and modifiable maps of Jerusalem, places like Capernaum where we have the streets, etc. from the archaeology. I often have such maps in my library because of resources I own, but they are not able to integrate into the atlas. Let me drop a copy of the madaba map on the landscape for example and toggle it on or off. The ability to add and pin our own maps to a base GPS coordinate system would go a long ways towards this. For a random example, I would like to pin notes about the types of trees and animals which might be found in a particular area of the desert to that place, so that later when I am following the route of a Biblical character through that same place, my notes about the environment would be available there. This might seem like unnecessary detail, but it is what you discover by walking through these places. I also don't always agree with Faithlife on where an event took place, and would like the option to pin a text to a location on my own. 

Yes

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Armin | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 4 2020 8:31 AM

Hi James,

These are great ideas. I hope they get implemented!

Armin

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Larry Craig | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 4 2020 9:10 AM

good comments.  I hope they get somewhere.  I had mentioned before about journals that the ones that Logos carries are not the ones you see cited in scholarly works.

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Andrew | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 4 2020 1:25 PM

James Neuendorf:

3. I want, no I need, full PDF (with search) integration into logos. The number of academic journals and important materials which are freely available in PDF format is astounding, and this is the final missing piece in logos with regard to academic use.

4. Reading plans need to be able to generate a plan based on a longer reading list than a single book. 

5. Ability to attach notes to "things", "persons" etc, not just bible references. The data is already there, this should be simple, but would allow me for example to keep all my notes on "Peter" to follow Peter wherever he appears in the text, or more specifically, my extensive notes on oil lamps whenever a lamp is lit in a text. 

Very solid suggestions.

Looks like support for PDFs is a firm "No": https://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-5/suggestions/1096505-pdf-docx-files

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