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Denise | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Jan 19 2020 9:45 AM

https://www.logos.com/product/175928/survey-of-western-palestine-memoirs-of-the-topography-orography-hydrography-and-archaeology  

Contra the product page, it's not 2001 ... more like 1875-ish. Mainly, I want the old maps. There's also plants, etc plates. And cheaper than the Amazon re-packaged digitals.

I admit, I'm curious exactly what ruins did the surveyors  come across, and earlier roads.

See also (CP is vol 1-3):

https://www.pef.org.uk/monographs/the-survey-of-western-palestine-1871-1877 (also archives.org)

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EastTN | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 19 2020 2:56 PM

I'm in on this one, but I must confess to mixed emotions on it.  I've been disappointed by the quality of the images in a lot (most?) of my Logos resources.

But I do love old maps.

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 19 2020 5:08 PM

EastTN:
I must confess to mixed emotions on it

I agree. And not meaning to be overly unhopeful, but 30 days is ok with me, if those surveyor boys' work can't be deciphered.

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Brad | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 19 2020 6:22 PM

I'm in too.  Thanks for the heads-up on this one, Denise.

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Glenn Crouch | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 20 2020 4:40 AM

Had my $10 bid for awhile now :)

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HJ. van der Wal | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 20 2020 6:57 AM

"The expedition led by Lieutenants Conder and Kitchener from 1871 to 1877 continues to make a major contribution to the geographical knowledge of Palestine, both ancient and modern. In fact, most maps used today are based upon their original survey. Their reports included both a huge map of Palestine divided into twenty-six sections and ten thousand sites listed alphabetically in the text according to their Arabic names and then transliterated into English. "

John D. Currid, Doing Archaeology in the Land of the Bible: a Basic Guide (Baker Books 1999) - https://ref.ly/o/archlndbblcurrid/103885?length=461

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 10 2020 2:23 PM

Denise:

Ok, down to the wire (Valentine's Day 12 midnight, after that smoochie date with your spouse). $10. And if the maps aren't quite there, 30 day return.

If you go to Amazon, things start adding up frustratingly. The problem, is the product was pretty sizable.

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Michael Kinch | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 11 2020 11:18 AM

I am in.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 12 2020 5:22 AM

Okay, I'm in too. I only wish I could see more examples of the 26 "highly detailed maps".

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 12 2020 6:00 AM

Bruce Dunning:

Okay, I'm in too. I only wish I could see more examples of the 26 "highly detailed maps".

Agree. But the limited ones I looked at were surprising. We're used to US Army 1800s maps here in Arizona, where every major rise is a 'mountain' ... apparently, following the early trails, they couldn't see if it was a mesa or mountain on the other 'side'. The Palestine ones look like normal topo maps in quite a bit of detail.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 12 2020 6:34 AM

Denise:

Bruce Dunning:

Okay, I'm in too. I only wish I could see more examples of the 26 "highly detailed maps".

Agree. But the limited ones I looked at were surprising. We're used to US Army 1800s maps here in Arizona, where every major rise is a 'mountain' ... apparently, following the early trails, they couldn't see if it was a mesa or mountain on the other 'side'. The Palestine ones look like normal topo maps in quite a bit of detail.

Thanks for explaining that. I love maps so this should be interesting to examine.

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Martin Hall | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 12 2020 8:44 AM

Thanks for the heads up, I am in too. 

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 22 2020 6:02 AM

 So Denise. How do you plan to use this resource? Cited by atlas collection?

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 22 2020 7:00 AM

I ended up stripping my CPs down to old lexicons that'll never pass go (Lampe anyone?). I got frustrated with the bugs that never get fixed, much less even acknowledged. Deleted Carta too ... Accordance is fine. Works.

But still love these type maps ... if I had, I'd be gazing ... not CitedBy.  Just this morning I was looking at the old Escalante-Dominquez route. Truly amazing.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 22 2020 7:27 AM

Denise:
Deleted Carta too ... Accordance is fine.

That's too bad to hear but I'm not tempted because I never purchased Carta in any other program.

Denise:
Just this morning I was looking at the old Escalante-Dominquez route. Truly amazing.

I tried to look at this but when I searched for Escalante-Dominquez Logos crashed. Tongue Tied

Where did you see this map?

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 22 2020 7:44 AM

Bruce Dunning:

I tried to look at this but when I searched for Escalante-Dominquez Logos crashed. Tongue Tied

Where did you see this map?

Oopsie doopsie .. I was talking old maps in general. Sorry for your crash!

Escalante and Dominguez (2 fathers) tried to create a route from Santa Fe (New Mexico), to California. Blocking their path were major canyons and mountain ranges. When it became obvious, no-go, the return was even worse. Reminded me of our squirrels who happily hop onto to our deck from the trees, only to to have no forward, and no return (Escalante found a single path out).

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 23 2020 5:45 AM

Denise:
Oopsie doopsie .. I was talking old maps in general. Sorry for your crash!

No worries. These things happen.

Denise:
Escalante and Dominguez (2 fathers) tried to create a route from Santa Fe (New Mexico), to California. Blocking their path were major canyons and mountain ranges. When it became obvious, no-go, the return was even worse. Reminded me of our squirrels who happily hop onto to our deck from the trees, only to to have no forward, and no return (Escalante found a single path out).

Thanks for the explanation. I'd love to see a map of this.

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Veli Voipio | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 23 2020 12:18 PM

I like those old line drawings: they are artistic and make my imagination fly, e.g. on page 322. The modern pictures are technically good and realistic, but don't allow for mental adventure.

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