Need e-reader recommendation for Logos

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David Gadbois | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Feb 14 2020 2:42 PM

All,

Brand new Logos user here.  I need a recommendation for the best e-reader for reading my Logos content.  I see that there have been some setbacks with Logos compatability with Kindle, so I need to look at alternatives.

The e-reader will pretty much be dedicated to Logos content, so I really don't care about other functionality.

No other hard requirements other than the fact that it must have an e-ink style display.

Thanks in advance for any recommendations.

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Fred Chapman | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 14 2020 3:47 PM

I've been using a tablet of some kind since the Logos mobile apps were first released.

Many years ago I had a Kindle Fire. It was okay, but as you said, the way Amazon customizes the OS can create problems. I have also used Android tablets in the past. Again, they were okay. A number of years ago I switched to an iPad. I love the UI, OS, dependability, and feel. For my money, the iPad is the go to tablet.

I use my use my iPad and the Logos app for reading and preaching. 

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Tom Reynolds | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 14 2020 3:56 PM

You'll want to check out this thread :https://community.logos.com/forums/t/131546.aspx

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David Gadbois | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 15 2020 1:19 PM

That thread is quite out-of-date.  Almost all of it is from 2016.

Icarus e-readers are recommended in that thread. But Icarus went out of business in 2018!

The iPads are not e-ink devices, so not a contender for me.

Looks like Kobo, Onyx, and Nook are the major non-Kindle players right now. Can also include Sony, although they seem more focused on writing/sketchpad functionality rather than reading.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 15 2020 3:14 PM

If it runs Android 6.x or higher, it'll run Logos. After that it's just specs analysis, budget, and what you yourself care about in an ereader.

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David Gadbois | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 19 2020 11:57 AM

Interesting.  The Kobo Forma uses a Linux operating system instead of Android, so it sounds like that might not work.

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Bill Anderson | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 19 2020 12:50 PM

If all you are doing is reading Logos content, then an iPad or Android tablet with modern specs will be fine. Since you want an e-ink device, you are pretty much stuck with those that run Android, but many of them have lesser specs and they may run older versions of Android that will not be supported for as long by Faithlife. But you should be aware of a limitation of both an iPad and Android tablet. Neither will not allow you to read the personal books you have created in Logos. To do that, you'll need a Windows tablet like a Surface Go or Pro. That will essentially give you the full Logos desktop experience on a smaller form factor.

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David Gadbois | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 19 2020 1:15 PM

Well, I think my options are getting narrowed down considerably, the more I talk through this with everyone here.

The Onyx Boox Nova Pro is supposedly be upgradable to Android 9 so I think that is the leading contender for me.  Not purchasing until next week so I have a little more time to think about it and consider other alternatives.

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Manuel Maria | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 19 2020 1:35 PM

It seems there used to be a button to export from logos to kindle. It's a pity it isn't there anymore. If at least books could be exported to epub, it would be great.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 19 2020 1:46 PM

Manuel Maria:
If at least books could be exported to epub, it would be great.

but since you can export to Word format, converting that to ePub shouldn't be an issue at all - or to mobi format which I expect you can read on kindle. There are online converters for various formats, but the Calibre software will do most of such conversions very easily and keep your books organized. 

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Tony Walker | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 19 2020 7:47 PM

I wonder how involved it would be for Logos to partner with some no name eink device maker that runs android and lock it to only run a Logos app and nothing else. 

something like a kindle voyage that allows you to read you books and simple highlights would be a dream come true. 

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Manuel Maria | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 19 2020 11:39 PM

Tony Walker:

I wonder how involved it would be for Logos to partner with some no name eink device maker that runs android and lock it to only run a Logos app and nothing else. 

something like a kindle voyage that allows you to read you books and simple highlights would be a dream come true. 

I agree, but take into account that batteries capacity is increasingly higher. So chances are that e-ink devices turn obsolete in the near future. They are comfortable to read, but they are not as responsive as any plain android device.

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 20 2020 4:20 AM

I used to have an Onyx device running Android 2.3 in the past. Logos stopped working for good when the TLS patch was introduced a year ago. It's a myth that Logos stopps working once the underlying Android version is no longer supported. It starts degrading, but that's a slow process.

It basically means, any resources that require app features introduced after the end of support date won't be able to be opened. Resource updates are usually few though, and if there are updates, many of them focus on fixing typos, and not so much on new features. The situation with new resources is different though. Toward the end of the life span of my old device, virtually none of them worked any longer.

The first manufacturer to introduce an Android 6 reader at affordable cost (my self set minimum standard for upgraing, so that I can use an SD card as internal memory extension), was Likebook in late 2018. I purchased the Likebook Mars pretty much instantly back then, which is still available, but they since introduced newer models with better specs.

Likebook has announced to upgrade all models to Android 8 next month (March 2020). Onyx announced upgrades to Android 9, however, for release in November 2019 (!!). Let's wait and see if Likebook is any better at keeping promises. Since Android 6 is now the minimum supported version, it would be prudent to wait for one of the manufacturers to release their upgrade before buying anything. Onyx has a track record of breaking upgrade promises, and Likebook is still a very new company.

If FL keeps raising the minimum Android versions like before, Android 8 (Likebook) would provide two more years of reading joy, and Android 9 (Onyx) three years, plus an undetermined degrading time afterward until some day TLS gets replaced by something better.

Here's my review of the Mars, including a short demonstration of the Logos app: https://youtu.be/utv-RAWCZvw

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Victor Chebech | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 20 2020 10:57 AM

How is it?

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John Eggen | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 23 2020 6:32 AM

I've wanted an e-ink device to use Logos on for years, so am very interested in following this.

The Boox Note2 is 10.3" and running Android 9 but is $550.

The Boox Nova Pro 7.8 is $320 and says it will be upgraded to Android 9 soon.

Lot's of comments on it here: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/168597.aspx?PageIndex=7

If I had $500 waiting to be spent I'd order a Note2 and try it, but I don't! Has anyone here used either?

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Liam | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 23 2020 10:15 AM

This is a good thread. The Onyx Boox Nova Pro looks great! Following!

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Liam | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 23 2020 2:58 PM

I’d love to hear if anyone runs the Logos app on the Boox Nova Pro and how it does on it.

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John Eggen | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 29 2020 8:29 AM

I reached out to Boox to find out if they could confirm that Logos works on their devices. They provided the following demo videos of the app. It appears to have the type of lag one would expect with an e-reader but otherwise seems function. This was with the Boox Max 3 and they said it "should" work on the Pro.

Video of Scrolling/Library

Video of Highlight Tool

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David Wanat | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 29 2020 9:13 AM

Is there a reason you can’t just use the Logos mobile app? I’ve used it for years. Just turn page scrolling off and it works like a superior e-reader.

typical appearance of a page on my iPad mini 4:

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Tony Walker | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 29 2020 11:00 AM

I think the goal isn't an E reader like experience, but more of an E-Ink reading experience. 

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