Mobile app - text comparison tool - missing translations

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Richard Byrne | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Mar 25 2020 6:42 PM

Hi, I have 13 Bible translations on my dekstop version of Logos 8, and have prioritized them according to my preference. When I open the text comparison tool on my Logos Mobile app, only 9 (the 9 highest priority) Bibles are displayed. All 13 translations are downloaded to the Mobile device. This "missing translation" behaviour is consistent between my iPad and my iPhone 7.

Has anyone run across this? Is it a limitation in the mobile app, or have I missed a setting somewhere?

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 26 2020 5:41 AM

Welcome Richard. I have a friend who is a Toastmaster named "Richard Byrne." I don't guess that would be you? 

I am not quite sure about the answer to your question. At first, I thought it might be related to reverse interlinears. Do you know which translations are not showing? 

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 26 2020 5:50 AM

I've just checked and - with "Top Bibles" selected in the Tool - I just get nine versions as well (which is strange in itself as "Top Bibles" on the desktop is the 5 highest prioritised ones)

It may be a limitation on mobile.

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Richard Byrne | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 26 2020 6:55 AM

Hi JT, no that's not me. I'm not using interlinears while observing this issue. The translations not showing happen to be NET, NLT, NiRV, and YLT. Those happen to be priority 10-13 inclusive on my list of prioritized Bibles.

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Richard Byrne | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 26 2020 6:56 AM

Thanks for confirming that it might be an issue with the app, Graham.

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Joe McCune (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 26 2020 8:31 AM

Richard Byrne:

Hi, I have 13 Bible translations on my dekstop version of Logos 8, and have prioritized them according to my preference. When I open the text comparison tool on my Logos Mobile app, only 9 (the 9 highest priority) Bibles are displayed. All 13 translations are downloaded to the Mobile device. This "missing translation" behaviour is consistent between my iPad and my iPhone 7.

Once you have Text Comparison on your screen, try tapping the three vertical dots (top right) and selecting “Resource Collections”.

From there you can choose different collections containing Bibles. which you previously set up on your computer.

If none of the collections is suitable, open Logos on your computer and go to Tools > Collections > New and set up a collection which includes only the Bibles that you wish to appear in Text Comparison on your mobile device.

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Richard Byrne | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 26 2020 5:18 PM

Joe McCune (Faithlife):

Once you have Text Comparison on your screen, try tapping the three vertical dots (top right) and selecting “Resource Collections”.

From there you can choose different collections containing Bibles. which you previously set up on your computer.

If none of the collections is suitable, open Logos on your computer and go to Tools > Collections > New and set up a collection which includes only the Bibles that you wish to appear in Text Comparison on your mobile device.

Thanks for this tip, Joe. I made a collection with the 13 preferred Bible translations and was able to select that custom collection from the mobile app text comparison tool. Only thing is, the collection stores the Bibles in alphabetical order and I can't seem to re-order them according to how I would like them to appear in the tool for comparison purposes. Do you have any suggestions for how to overcome that? If not, maybe the next bug fix can address the maximum number of Bibles as being nine...

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Todd Diehl (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 27 2020 11:25 AM

Richard, I've prioritized 10 bibles and a Text Comparison with my Top Bibles shows 10, not 9 rows. Could you give me your prioritized top 10 bibles and what bible reference you are seeing the problem so I can try to reproduce? Do all of those bibles contain both OT and NT?

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Richard Byrne | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 28 2020 1:41 AM

Todd Diehl (Faithlife):

Richard, I've prioritized 10 bibles and a Text Comparison with my Top Bibles shows 10, not 9 rows. Could you give me your prioritized top 10 bibles and what bible reference you are seeing the problem so I can try to reproduce? Do all of those bibles contain both OT and NT?

Thanks for looking into this, Todd. I think maybe I have assumed that my Top Bibles collection just uses the Bibles listed highest on my list of prioritized resources. How does one set which Bibles are "Top Bibles"? I've been unable to find a collection with that name to modify.

Here are the translations in the order I set them under "Prioritize Resources." I believe they are have OT and NT:

ESV, LEB, NASB95, KJV (with Apochrypha), NKJV, ASV, CSB, HCSB, NIV, NET, NLT, NIrV, YLT.

I can repeat the problem on both my iPhone and iPad (i.e. only 9 of my 13 translations show up) for both Genesis 1:1 and John 1:1. I don't have any issues seeing all 13 translations in the Text Comparison tool on my Mac desktop app.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 28 2020 2:31 AM

I don't know how you get nine. The Help file gives the default Top Bibles collection this description:

•      Top Bibles (top 5 Bibles in resource priority)

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 28 2020 2:43 AM

MJ. Smith:

I don't know how you get nine. The Help file gives the default Top Bibles collection this description:

•      Top Bibles (top 5 Bibles in resource priority)

On mobile, this lmit doesn't seem to apply in the TC tool

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Todd Diehl (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 29 2020 10:01 PM

Thanks for sharing your prioritized list, Richard, that helps narrow down the issue.

The issue is with the KJV (with Apocrypha), since that is technically two resources (the KJV + The Apocrypha). If you're doing a text comparison on Genesis 1:1, there are no references in The Apocrypha, and it is removed from the comparison results. The result is that you see one fewer items in the response.

I believe this is a bug, since we should be taking the first X resources that contain the requested reference. I will open a case.

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Richard Byrne | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 30 2020 1:43 AM

Todd Diehl (Faithlife):

Thanks for sharing your prioritized list, Richard, that helps narrow down the issue.

The issue is with the KJV (with Apocrypha), since that is technically two resources (the KJV + The Apocrypha). If you're doing a text comparison on Genesis 1:1, there are no references in The Apocrypha, and it is removed from the comparison results. The result is that you see one fewer items in the response.

I believe this is a bug, since we should be taking the first X resources that contain the requested reference. I will open a case.

Thanks for this insight, Todd. I removed the KJV+A from my prioritized list and inserted KJV1900 (not sure why I even had the KJV+A in the list, since I have the KJV1900 selected in the desktop app). The result is that I now see one "extra" translation in my mobile Text Comparison tool. In the list that follows, the bold translations are now visible in the tool:

ESV, LEB, NASB95, KJV1900, NKJV, ASV, CSB, HCSB, NIV, NET, NLT, NIrV, YLT.

This leave me wondering whether, as you open this case, the maximum number of translations in the mobile Text Comparison tool can be increased to a number larger than 10.

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