OED Online Edition and Logos

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, May 9 2020 10:36 AM

Would it be possible to port to the online addition of the OED via Logos and have all the capabilities of Logos functionalities enhance the broad services and comprehensive treatment of word definitions and etymologies as well as quotations available to subscribers? As I see it Libraries can subscribe to the OED what would prevent Logos from being a subscriber and offer access through their program? Is there any interest?

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 9 2020 11:51 AM

Just guessing, libraries are a special case; commercial software a different animal.

But suppoting subscriptions through Logos to OED might be a new revenue source for FL (and enhanced, as you describe). 

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Pastor Dan Cleghorn | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 9 2020 12:23 PM

I, too, would like to see a subscription through Logos for this kind of access. Mark Ward talks of the Oxford English Dictionary a lot and it sounds very interesting.

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Dale E Heath | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 9 2020 1:02 PM

If you can't or don't want to subscribe through your local library, OED subscription is on sale.

We are pleased to offer annual individual OED subscriptions at a reduced rate of $90 in the US (usually $295)  or £90 for the Rest of the World (usually £215) for annual subscriptions taken out until March 31 2021. For this annual rate, you’ll have full unrestricted access to the OED Online – including quarterly updates!

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 9 2020 3:38 PM

Dale E Heath:

If you can't or don't want to subscribe through your local library, OED subscription is on sale.

We are pleased to offer annual individual OED subscriptions at a reduced rate of $90 in the US (usually $295)  or £90 for the Rest of the World (usually £215) for annual subscriptions taken out until March 31 2021. For this annual rate, you’ll have full unrestricted access to the OED Online – including quarterly updates!

They had a COVID-19 disclaimer stating that subscriptions are delayed due to COVID-19. I just tried again to sign up today and I'm happy to say that it appeared to accept my payment they said it may take 24 hours to activate they would be in touch with confirmation details via email.

Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 9 2020 3:46 PM

Denise:
But suppoting subscriptions through Logos to OED might be a new revenue source for FL (and enhanced, as you describe).
This is what I'm hoping for. Not being a techie, but I'm thinking with OED agreement FL would enhance the experience from within Logos. Maybe someone who has technical knowledge can chime in and expound on the possibilities.

Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.

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Nick Steffen | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 10 2020 9:28 AM

I jumped onboard the OED offer. Totally worth it. 

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 10 2020 3:38 PM

Nick Steffen:

I jumped onboard the OED offer. Totally worth it. 

I'm up and running on OED as of today! First search was on the word "quant." Absent from the entries were surprisingly the definition I was after. Its use in the topic Finance. I had to run an Advanced Search and specify this topic. The answer was listed as colloquial and was found listed under heading 2. Finance and Economics:

 A quantitative analyst; a person who excels at or depends upon quantitative methods of analysis.

 Embellished under this definition were found quotations from various sources. O the sheer joy of discovery. My search for its etymology was dissatisfying, but illuminating. I was searching for the first time the word was used in this manner. Perhaps someone can advise on how to go about this from within OED. I know you may be thinking this has nothing to do with Logos. But, you can think of this as a test case. I've only just begun.

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Dale E Heath | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 10 2020 7:17 PM

A simple Google search came up with this:

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Nick Steffen | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 10 2020 7:26 PM

I wouldn't pretend to any expertise in using the OED, but I do enjoy exploring words! I think entry B2 is the one you're looking at. 

The 16.4.1979 quotation from Forbes is from the earliest one they could find demonstrating the particular usage in the definition, marking a shift from "quant" as slang for analysis to a person doing the analysis (in this case, financial analysis). One writer describes it like this:

'Quant started out as shorthand for either quantitative or quantitative analysis, and the Oxford English Dictionary traces that colloquial contraction back to the late 19th century. An 1896 compendium of student slang glosses quant as "quantitative analysis, or quantitative chemistry." Quant eventually made the leap from chemistry students to the world of finance, where it got extended in various other ways. For instance, quant also came to mean "quantitative analyst," as in this 1979 quote from Forbes: "Russell isn't a 'quant,' one of the young consultants who do much of their monitoring by questionnaire and most of their evaluating by quantitative analysis.'

Since the term is a shortening of "quantitative", you would find a fuller etymology at quantitative adj. (Just make sure to click "Show More" next to Etymology.)

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 10 2020 7:55 PM

Thanks Nick,

Well done. Enthralling commentary done like a true exegete. So glad you're in the forums.

Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.

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Nick Steffen | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 11 2020 8:54 AM

You are far too kind, Beloved. But thank you for your kind words!

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