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John W | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, May 21 2020 9:04 AM

How do you find where Jesus is addressed as "teacher" in the Gospels (e.g.-Luke 18:18)?

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 21 2020 9:18 AM

John W:

How do you find where Jesus is addressed as "teacher" in the Gospels (e.g.-Luke 18:18)?

If you have the required datesets - teacher INTERSECTS <Person Jesus> - would work.

Try that and see if it gives you what you want.

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John W | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 21 2020 9:43 AM

Yes that works!

Now--How would I find how the religious leaders addressed Jesus? In other words, in ways other than teacher, if any?

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 21 2020 3:23 PM

John W:

Yes that works!

Now--How would I find how the religious leaders addressed Jesus? In other words, in ways other than teacher, if any?

{Speaker <Person Pharisees>}, {Speaker <Person Sadducees questioning Jesus>} INTERSECTS {Addressee <Person Jesus>}

i.e. Pharisees or Sadducees speaking to Jesus. There are other <Person ....> for either group that you can query separately, but you have to inspect each result to see how they addressed Jesus.

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John W | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 21 2020 5:33 PM

Is the bible browser tool designed to surface this kind of query? 

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 21 2020 6:02 PM

John W:

Is the bible browser tool designed to surface this kind of query? 

Under Reported Speech, select an Addressee (Jesus) and then select a Speaker

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John W | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 28 2020 10:17 AM

How do I find all the places where Jesus rebuked a crowd; a demon, etc?

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 30 2020 5:54 PM

John W:

How do I find all the places where Jesus rebuked a crowd; a demon, etc?

<Person A Crowd> NEAR {Speaker <Person Jesus>}  

<Person A Demoniac> NEAR {Speaker <Person Jesus>}  

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Type crowd or demon into the Search box and it will suggest a Person and format it as above. demon will also suggest a Sense and  you can add that, separated by a comma e.g. <Person A Demoniac>, <Sense demon>. You can judge "rebuking" from the results.

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John W | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 30 2020 8:56 PM

Thanks that did it.

But how do you know when to use "NEAR" vs something else?

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 30 2020 11:02 PM

John W:
But how do you know when to use "NEAR" vs something else?

It's a matter of judgment.

If you don't include any search operators - so just include both search terms - the search defaults to the AND operator and will return results where both terms are present in a verse (or in an "article" when executing a Basic search)

Sometimes that gives you too many results.

The NEAR operator returns results when the search terms are "near" each other in the verse (technically within 48 characters) which reduces the likelihood of the two terms being present but not related to each other.

If you want to specify the maximum number of words between them you use something like BEFORE 2 WORDS

If you only want results when the search term overlaps you can use the INTERSECTS operator.

More details are available at https://wiki.logos.com/Search_HELP#Syntax_and_Operators and in the Logos helpfile

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 31 2020 12:05 AM

John W:

Thanks that did it.

But how do you know when to use "NEAR" vs something else?

Adding to Graham's excellent response, INTERSECTS would be the wrong operator here because the search terms have to be separate phrases e.g.

Jesus rebuked him saying "be silent...."  --->   "him" is NEAR "be silent....". INTERSECTS would look for "him" within the phrase "be silent...."

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