BOOKS Suggestion: Girard, Rene

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GaoLu | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Jul 25 2020 8:48 AM

 Girard already exists, 2nd hand, in Logos, for example:

  1. Girard, René. “‘The Ancient Trail Trodden by the Wicked’: Job as Scapegoat.” Edited by Andrew J. McKenna. Semeia 33 (1985).
  2. Finamore, Stephen. God, Order, and Chaos: René Girard and the Apocalypse. Milton Keynes: Paternoster, 2009.

Girard's books belong in Logos too, first hand.  Note these: 

  • I See Satan Fall Like Lightning 
  • Things Hidden Since the Foundation of the World
  • The Scapegoat
  • Job: The Victim of His People
  • ...many more

Here is a more more complete list from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/s?i=stripbooks&rh=p_27%3ARene+Girard&s=relevancerank&text=Rene+Girard&ref=dp_byline_sr_book_1

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 25 2020 2:26 PM

Thanks for finally suggesting that this gaping hole in our libraries be filled.

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Nick Steffen | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 26 2020 9:23 AM

Absolutely! Yes

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Mike Hanes | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 27 2020 7:54 AM

GaoLu:

 Girard already exists, 2nd hand, in Logos, for example:

  1. Girard, René. “‘The Ancient Trail Trodden by the Wicked’: Job as Scapegoat.” Edited by Andrew J. McKenna. Semeia 33 (1985).
  2. Finamore, Stephen. God, Order, and Chaos: René Girard and the Apocalypse. Milton Keynes: Paternoster, 2009.

Girard's books belong in Logos too, first hand.  Note these: 

  • I See Satan Fall Like Lightning 
  • Things Hidden Since the Foundation of the World
  • The Scapegoat
  • Job: The Victim of His People
  • ...many more

Here is a more more complete list from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/s?i=stripbooks&rh=p_27%3ARene+Girard&s=relevancerank&text=Rene+Girard&ref=dp_byline_sr_book_1

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll see what I can do.

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Greg Dement | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 25 2021 6:47 AM

It was suggested to me in studying atonement that I read Girard. I had not heard of him.


-I know almost nothing about him or his works and don’t know which book to star with, I would appreciate suggestions.

-Reading a quick article online he seems either an enhancement to understanding the Bible or perhaps heretical. If he is generally considered heretical or even blasphemous, it is not something I want to read at this time and would appreciate a heads up.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 25 2021 11:08 AM

Greg Dement:
-Reading a quick article online he seems either an enhancement to understanding the Bible or perhaps heretical. If he is generally considered heretical or even blasphemous, it is not something I want to read at this time and would appreciate a heads up.

"Is x heretical?" is not a question that we can answer on the forums.

Please use descriptive thread titles to attract helpful posts & not waste others' time. Thanks!

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Greg Dement | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 25 2021 12:07 PM

SineNomine,

ok, but can you (anyone) suggest which of his books to read?

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 25 2021 4:18 PM

Greg Dement:
Reading a quick article online he seems either an enhancement to understanding the Bible or perhaps heretical.

I hesitate to offer reading suggestions to someone so quick to jump to conclusions - I find him more like Derrida, a method of seeing that brings a particular set of interests to the forefront. As such, he is one of many who are essential for apologetics and polemics, to speaking Christian truth to the contemporary educated person.

René Girard’s thought defies classification. He has written from the perspective of a wide variety of disciplines: Literary Criticism, Psychology, Anthropology, Sociology, History, Biblical Hermeneutics and Theology. Although he rarely calls himself a philosopher, many philosophical implications can be derived from his work. Girard’s work is above all concerned with Philosophical Anthropology (that is, ‘What is it to be human?’), and draws from many disciplinary perspectives. Over the years he has developed a mimetic theory. According to this theory human beings imitate each other, and this eventually gives rise to rivalries and violent conflicts. Such conflicts are partially solved by a scapegoat mechanism, but ultimately, Christianity is the best antidote to violence.

Perhaps Girard’s lack of specific disciplinary affiliation has promoted a slight marginalization of his work among contemporary philosophers. Girard is not on par with more well known French contemporary philosophers (for example Derrida, Foucault, Deleuze, Lyotard), but his work is becoming increasingly recognized in the humanities, and his commitment as a Christian thinker has given him prominence among theologians.

To see him applied to scriptural interpretation on a weekly basis - non expert level: Year B (girardianlectionary.net)

Internet resources: Links & Resources (girardianlectionary.net)

In my library, the search {Label Journal Article WHERE Author ~ Girard} brings up some of his key articles.

My experience: You don't read Girard to learn what to believe - you read him in order to understand what predisposes you to certain beliefs and to ask new questions to expand your understanding of those beliefs.

 What to read first? Probably The Scapegoat or I See Satan Fall Like Lightning

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 25 2021 5:36 PM

Mike Hanes:

GaoLu:

 Girard already exists, 2nd hand, in Logos, for example:

  1. Girard, René. “‘The Ancient Trail Trodden by the Wicked’: Job as Scapegoat.” Edited by Andrew J. McKenna. Semeia 33 (1985).
  2. Finamore, Stephen. God, Order, and Chaos: René Girard and the Apocalypse. Milton Keynes: Paternoster, 2009.

Girard's books belong in Logos too, first hand.  Note these: 

  • I See Satan Fall Like Lightning 
  • Things Hidden Since the Foundation of the World
  • The Scapegoat
  • Job: The Victim of His People
  • ...many more

Here is a more more complete list from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/s?i=stripbooks&rh=p_27%3ARene+Girard&s=relevancerank&text=Rene+Girard&ref=dp_byline_sr_book_1

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll see what I can do.

Mike, any updates? It would be really good to get some Girard in Logos.

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Greg Dement | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 25 2021 6:07 PM

MJ, quick read quick thoughts…not conclusions. Perhaps you were the one to jump to quick conclusion  Wink  (joking in case the emoji doesn’t show) Even if it were “heretical/blasphemous“ I am not opposed to reading it. I said “at this time”. I am working on a study on atonement with a small group and not something I would find useful for this project. I was intrigued by what little a friend said about his thought processes. I had never heard of him and apologetics is a big area of interest for me, as you may recall from past posts. Thanks for the tips, I bought I See Satan Fall Like Lightning earlier this afternoon glad to see it was something suggested.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 25 2021 6:23 PM

mea culpa ...

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