Manuscript info in Logos - beyond Textual Variants Guide

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Bob | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Aug 3 2020 12:29 PM

The textual variants guide has great verse-based manuscript information in Logos 8 Desktop. Hoping more is available outside the guide.

Is there an easy way in Logos to determine...

1. Which manuscripts do/don't contain the verse

      - For example, for a verse in Revelation, which manuscripts are witnesses to the text?
      - Can the manuscript explorer filter by verse to show which manuscripts have the verse?

      - If a verse is missing, can we tell if was it missing in the original manuscript or it was damaged?

2. Transcription confidence for a verse by manuscript

      - Is the verse physically intact and clear for transcription, or partially intact requiring some guessing?

3. Scribal comments, corrections and decisions

      - Which verses have scribal comments or corrections - to know when to bother looking at it?

      - Can scribal comments be seen without following external links to the document image?

      - Which variants were written, or corrected and maybe even again overturned?

4. Translator notes from your library relevant to that verse

Appreciate any help as I want to understand the basis of various texts rather than flying blind. Seems desirable to be able to understand the manuscript evidence beyond what is shown in apparatuses and textual commentaries. But I'm not sure how much of this requires some heavy lifting. Thanks!

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Into Grace | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 4 2020 7:44 AM


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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 4 2020 8:04 AM

First, I don't use the MSS Explorer, so maybe Rick or someone else.

But otherwise:

- Which mss's are you speaking to; there's early, significant, and copies of copies (thousands)

- Comfort's early mss's are easy to use, regarding whether a verse is in the fragment(s). Similarly, DSS Biblical.

- None of of the varients speak to the original, since they're not original nor even close (in time). Guesswork.

- USB5 apparatus includes a code as to confidence (and estimated century)

- Metzger has the best verse discussion of key varients; NET Notes is also good. 

- Regarding further detail (mss condition, etc), either the critical commentaries, or mss links in Explorer

- Regarding the easiest listing per verse, per varient, the New Orleans apparatus is the most complete and updated.

Finally, you'll have more luck with your questions with the OT; more accessible sources, scribal discussions, etc.

"God will save his fallen angels and their broken wings He'll mend."

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Bob | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 10 2020 1:41 PM

Appreciate tips on the additional Logos resources. 

I also ran across NT textual witnesses and variant graphs in an iOS app by the SWORD Project, which fetches INTF info based on the verse. Looks promising.

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