Wordsearch Moving to Logos Bible Software

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John Simpson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 19 2020 5:05 PM

Years ago, I purchased up a number of Wordsearch libraries on CD from bookstores. I also purchased CD’s and downloads from Doxa/Rejoice Software and Galaxie for books that Wordsearch did not carry. Over the years, most of those books became directly available from Wordsearch.

A while back I noticed that although the books worked fine in Desktop and could be downloaded and updated, they did not show on my account. The *.ulk unlock files were only local on my PC. Since I still had the CD's, I scanned them and asked my sales rep to register them to my account. He was also able to register a couple of resources I had purchased as a Doxa download since the resources were now available from Wordsearch itself.

I'm sure there are a number of Wordsearch users who have a similar situation, but never realized their online account did not reflect all their purchases and never registered their CD's.

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John Simpson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 19 2020 6:57 PM

Looks like Bibliotheca Sacra Volume 60-72 and and then 91-174 aren't linked.

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 19 2020 7:31 PM

John Simpson:

Years ago, I purchased up a number of Wordsearch libraries on CD from bookstores. I also purchased CD’s and downloads from Doxa/Rejoice Software and Galaxie for books that Wordsearch did not carry. Over the years, most of those books became directly available from Wordsearch.

A while back I noticed that although the books worked fine in Desktop and could be downloaded and updated, they did not show on my account. The *.ulk unlock files were only local on my PC. Since I still had the CD's, I scanned them and asked my sales rep to register them to my account. He was also able to register a couple of resources I had purchased as a Doxa download since the resources were now available from Wordsearch itself.

I'm sure there are a number of Wordsearch users who have a similar situation, but never realized their online account did not reflect all their purchases and never registered their CD's.

We're investigating if there's a way to import Doxa products. It's complex. Most of them weren't actually officially Wordsearch products. They were "CROSS Compatible" and "Powered by WORDsearch," which allowed them to be used in Wordsearch but weren't part of the official set of Wordsearch licenses and files hosted and managed by Wordsearch.

Consequently, they also weren't part of the set of assets that were sold to us as part of the Wordsearch business, because Wordsearch didn't own them; Doxa Digital Press did. The individual who ran Doxa (and also Rejoice Software) probably still owns the contracts and files, unless he sold them to someone else. I'm reaching out to a few different people to see what I can learn.

It looks like some portion of Doxa titles were licensed to Wordsearch to sell in The Theology Bundle. But licenses acquired directly from Doxa Digital Press never got converted to true Wordsearch licenses. That's probably something we could do on a case by case basis, but there's probably no way to do that for everyone in bulk—and it's only going to cover some of the Doxa resources, not all of them.

We'll report back once we better understand the details, what the options are, etc.

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Bill Moore | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 19 2020 7:38 PM

Phil Gons (Faithlife):

We're investigating if there's a way to import Doxa products. It's complex. Most of them weren't actually officially Wordsearch products. They were "CROSS Compatible" and "Powered by WORDsearch," which allowed them to be used in Wordsearch but weren't part of the official set of Wordsearch licenses and files hosted and managed by Wordsearch.

Consequently, they also weren't part of the set of assets that were sold to us as part of the Wordsearch business, because Wordsearch didn't own them; Doxa Digital Press did. The individual who ran Doxa (and also Rejoice Software) probably still owns the contracts and files, unless he sold them to someone else. I'm reaching out to a few different people to see what I can learn.

It looks like some portion of Doxa titles were licensed to Wordsearch to sell in The Theology Bundle. But licenses acquired directly from Doxa Digital Press never got converted to true Wordsearch licenses. That's probably something we could do on a case by case basis, but there's probably no way to do that for everyone in bulk—and it's only going to cover some of the Doxa resources, not all of them.

We'll report back once we better understand the details, what the options are, etc.

Phil, I appreciate your efforts in attempting to recover the Doxa titles. I was resigned to their being lost. I’m glad to see there’s some hope. 

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Bill Moore | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 19 2020 7:38 PM

Phil Gons (Faithlife):

We're investigating if there's a way to import Doxa products. It's complex. Most of them weren't actually officially Wordsearch products. They were "CROSS Compatible" and "Powered by WORDsearch," which allowed them to be used in Wordsearch but weren't part of the official set of Wordsearch licenses and files hosted and managed by Wordsearch.

Consequently, they also weren't part of the set of assets that were sold to us as part of the Wordsearch business, because Wordsearch didn't own them; Doxa Digital Press did. The individual who ran Doxa (and also Rejoice Software) probably still owns the contracts and files, unless he sold them to someone else. I'm reaching out to a few different people to see what I can learn.

It looks like some portion of Doxa titles were licensed to Wordsearch to sell in The Theology Bundle. But licenses acquired directly from Doxa Digital Press never got converted to true Wordsearch licenses. That's probably something we could do on a case by case basis, but there's probably no way to do that for everyone in bulk—and it's only going to cover some of the Doxa resources, not all of them.

We'll report back once we better understand the details, what the options are, etc.

Phil, I appreciate your efforts in attempting to recover the Doxa titles. I was resigned to their being lost. I’m glad to see there’s some hope. 

Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 19 2020 7:41 PM

Phil Gons (Faithlife):

John Simpson:

Years ago, I purchased up a number of Wordsearch libraries on CD from bookstores. I also purchased CD’s and downloads from Doxa/Rejoice Software and Galaxie for books that Wordsearch did not carry. Over the years, most of those books became directly available from Wordsearch.

A while back I noticed that although the books worked fine in Desktop and could be downloaded and updated, they did not show on my account. The *.ulk unlock files were only local on my PC. Since I still had the CD's, I scanned them and asked my sales rep to register them to my account. He was also able to register a couple of resources I had purchased as a Doxa download since the resources were now available from Wordsearch itself.

I'm sure there are a number of Wordsearch users who have a similar situation, but never realized their online account did not reflect all their purchases and never registered their CD's.

We're investigating if there's a way to import Doxa products. It's complex. Most of them weren't actually officially Wordsearch products. They were "CROSS Compatible" and "Powered by WORDsearch," which allowed them to be used in Wordsearch but weren't part of the official set of Wordsearch licenses and files hosted and managed by Wordsearch.

Consequently, they also weren't part of the set of assets that were sold to us as part of the Wordsearch business, because Wordsearch didn't own them; Doxa Digital Press did. The individual who ran Doxa (and also Rejoice Software) probably still owns the contracts and files, unless he sold them to someone else. I'm reaching out to a few different people to see what I can learn.

It looks like some portion of Doxa titles were licensed to Wordsearch to sell in The Theology Bundle. But licenses acquired directly from Doxa Digital Press never got converted to true Wordsearch licenses. That's probably something we could do on a case by case basis, but there's probably no way to do that for everyone in bulk—and it's only going to cover some of the Doxa resources, not all of them.

We'll report back once we better understand the details, what the options are, etc.

Can I just say that this post should be a reminder to all of us that Faithlife is deeply committed to being the best in class with their software and to give us the most and best resources available and to always do right by the customer.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 19 2020 7:51 PM

David Taylor Jr:
Can I just say that this post should be a reminder to all of us that Faithlife is deeply committed to being the best in class with their software and to give us the most and best resources available and to always do right by the customer.

Amen to that.

Phil Gons (Faithlife):
Consequently, they also weren't part of the set of assets that were sold to us as part of the Wordsearch business, because Wordsearch didn't own them; Doxa Digital Press did. The individual who ran Doxa (and also Rejoice Software) probably still owns the contracts and files, unless he sold them to someone else. I'm reaching out to a few different people to see what I can learn.

I imagine lots of people would be happy if you could acquire the contracts and files and thereby offer to sell to FL customers whatever Doxa has contracts/licenses for that FL still doesn't have.

“God watches over the affairs of those who truly love him without their worrying about them.” - St. John of the Cross

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Gary Osborne | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 19 2020 8:06 PM

Very excited about this news.  Had Wordsearch software way, way, way back in the day.  Never kept up with it enough to go digital and create an online account.  But that’s fine as long as my holy grail that I’ve been begging Bob for for over a decade now is really coming.  I’m talking about the Fire Bible.  

I pray they can get that one offered quickly for us Logos users who have patiently waited for our most important Bible Study resource to be added.

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John Simpson:

Looks like Bibliotheca Sacra Volume 60-72 and and then 91-174 aren't linked.

We discovered this earlier today, but probably won't get it fixed up until Monday.

EDIT: Our license linking is correct for volumes 60-72 but I don't see those in our copy of your Wordsearch licenses. Can you confirm that you do own those in Wordsearch? 

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Joe Grimes:

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):

Which volumes are missing?

A good portion of the Bibliotheca Sacra volumes are missing.  Maybe just a few others at quick glance.  But the Bibliotheca Sacra gap really sticks out.

We have a license linking problem with Bibliotheca Sacra Volumes 91-170. That should be fixed up on Monday.

Any other volumes missing?

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Tes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 20 2020 3:42 AM

Gary Osborne:

Very excited about this news.  Had Wordsearch software way, way, way back in the day.  Never kept up with it enough to go digital and create an online account.  But that’s fine as long as my holy grail that I’ve been begging Bob for for over a decade now is really coming.  I’m talking about the Fire Bible.  

I pray they can get that one offered quickly for us Logos users who have patiently waited for our most important Bible Study resource to be added.

I have Fire Bible from word search I hope next week will be downloaded.

Blessings in Christ.

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John C Connell Jr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 20 2020 5:42 AM

LessonMaker will be a huge blessing in Logos.

Be strong and courageous. . . for the LORD your God is with you wherever you go.

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John Simpson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 20 2020 8:33 AM

I own the complete set of journals that Wordsearch offered. Sets 1-15 were originally purchased from Galaxie, but sales converted to the Wordsearch licenses when I added the later upgrade packages.

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John Simpson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 20 2020 8:41 AM

I own all the journals that Wordsearch offered, I originally purchased sets 1-15 from Galaxie, but Wordsearch converted the licenses when I purchased the later upgrade packages. Screenshot of last upgrade email and from software.



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John Simpson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 20 2020 8:45 AM

I own all the journals Wordsearch offered. This was from last upgrade email, along with screenshot from software

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John Simpson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 20 2020 8:49 AM

I own all the journals Wordsearch offered. This was from last upgrade email, along with screenshot from software

 

 

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John Simpson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 20 2020 8:51 AM

I own all the journals Wordsearch offered. This was from last upgrade email, along with screenshot from software

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 20 2020 9:02 AM

Tes:
I have Fire Bible from word search I hope next week will be downloaded.

Tes, sorry for being the one to tell you, but it won't download next week - the Fire Bible is on Logos' list of things they want to build and bring over during the remainder of 2020. Since it's a study bible, they won't be able to go for the eBook variation, so it could come Christmas rather than next week (though since it has been asked for so long and so often, maybe they put it on high-prio such as the Thompson Chain Bible).

Until then, be glad you have an electronic copy of it, as WS will continue to work for the foreseeable future. I never bought it on WS, but paid €50 for the German Hardcover edition (plus some smaller amount for the English-language Student Edition), so I have to wait until it comes - hoping to see those things on PrePub with a rebate for the loyal Logosians...  

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Joe Grimes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 20 2020 9:40 AM

Here's what I have missing:

Bibliotheca Sacra Volumes 60-72

Bibliotheca Sacra Volumes 91-171

Bible and Spade Volume 25

Bible and Spade Volumes 27-29

Grace Journal Volume 14

Puritan Reformed Journal, Volume 4, Number 2 (July 2012)

Puritan Reformed Journal, Volume 5, Number 2 (July 2013)

Westminster Theological Journal Volume 71

Westminster Theological Journal Volume 76

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Tes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 20 2020 11:03 AM

NB.Mick:

Tes:
I have Fire Bible from word search I hope next week will be downloaded.

Tes, sorry for being the one to tell you, but it won't download next week - the Fire Bible is on Logos' list of things they want to build and bring over during the remainder of 2020. Since it's a study bible, they won't be able to go for the eBook variation, so it could come Christmas rather than next week (though since it has been asked for so long and so often, maybe they put it on high-prio such as the Thompson Chain Bible).

Until then, be glad you have an electronic copy of it, as WS will continue to work for the foreseeable future. I never bought it on WS, but paid €50 for the German Hardcover edition (plus some smaller amount for the English-language Student Edition), so I have to wait until it comes - hoping to see those things on PrePub with a rebate for the loyal Logosians...  

I have seen it in the list which are to be imported from WS. I need a clarification from Bradley.

  • Fire Bible, Donald C. E Stamps; J. Wesley E Adams, Life Publishers International

Blessings in Christ.

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