Wordsearch Moving to Logos Bible Software

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Kolen Cheung | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 23 2020 4:40 PM

Kolen Cheung:
I found that the book id is 0:1725. Thanks.

Thanks. I got access to it just now.

I have compiled a table of missing titles. I probably will post it in https://community.logos.com/forums/t/193934.aspx?PageIndex=2 unless you want me to report somewhere else?

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Kolen Cheung:
I found that the book id is 0:1725. Thanks.

Your licenses should be available now, including all the Tozer volumes: https://www.logos.com/wordsearch/catalog

Please let us know if anything appears to be missing.

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Kolen Cheung | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 23 2020 4:43 PM

Kolen Cheung:

Kolen Cheung:
I found that the book id is 0:1725. Thanks.

Thanks. I got access to it just now.

Actually may be I have access to it in the beginning. WORDsearch showed it as "Tozer on Christian Leadership" but Logos showed it as "Tozer for the Christian Leader".

Thanks.

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Chris Wylie | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 23 2020 4:51 PM

Almost a week later and still none of my Wordsearch titles have migrated to Logos (according to https://www.logos.com/wordsearch/library-migration, which I check regularly). 

Should I be concerned? How many users are still waiting?

Thanks

Chris

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Chris Wylie:

Almost a week later and still none of my Wordsearch titles have migrated to Logos (according to https://www.logos.com/wordsearch/library-migration, which I check regularly). 

Should I be concerned? How many users are still waiting?

Please see my update on timing here: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/193953/1118644.aspx#1118644

We did not expect this to take so long, and apologise for the delay, but we're processing the license backlog right now.

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Kolen Cheung | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 23 2020 5:52 PM

Colin Ware:

I don't wish to sound negative but I wake up on 20 September with this 'fait accompli' Wordsearch moving to Logos Bible Software.

My concern relates to handling customer information.  On the basis of ' a common email address' there is a sharing of information whether we like it or not. So my questions are:

    1. What other information may have been used to support this and to compare customer detail? and;

    2. What safeguards were/are in place with the transfer of information?;

    3. It maybe some detail in a profile  did not wished to be shared in this way so how is it protected?

Nowhere in the documents listed could I find  reference to privacy information ( I am happy to be corrected).

Do not get me wrong. I have used both programs for many years and understand there are benefits in the 'transition' although speaking personally it will prove difficult.

Getting back to my concerns, both WS and Logos have privacy policies. Is it possible for some Logos official to comment on how these policies guided the transition; the affects privacy the transition has and confirm that arrangements meet the privacy policy of both organisations.

Thank you in anticipation.

Colin Ware

I don't understand about the privacy concern here. Logos (Faithlife) acquired WORDsearch and therefore whatever info you revealed to WORDsearch should be and has to be available to Faithlife (else how can they make the transition for you?)

May be what you want is some sort of consent. The only thing they did that is slightly scary is the auto-merging of the 2 libraries but then they said that you can request them to undo this.

I think they want to make it as seamless as possible and at the same time as it is not an irreversible process that I think it is as good as it can be.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 23 2020 6:30 PM

Colin Ware:
On the basis of ' a common email address' there is a sharing of information whether we like it or not.

Rather than sharing the data, I think it is more accurate to say the data was sold to Faithhlife Inc. together with the responsibility to provide certain functions and products that LifeWay would no longer provide. Put another way, LifeWay sold the contract that you had with LifeWay to Faithlife ... similar to how banks may sell your mortgage to other banks or the conversions in a bank merger.

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 23 2020 6:41 PM

MJ. Smith:

Colin Ware:
On the basis of ' a common email address' there is a sharing of information whether we like it or not.

Rather than sharing the data, I think it is more accurate to say the data was sold to Faithhlife Inc. together with the responsibility to provide certain functions and products that LifeWay would no longer provide. Put another way, LifeWay sold the contract that you had with LifeWay to Faithlife ... similar to how banks may sell your mortgage to other banks or the conversions in a bank merger.

Well said, MJ 👍😁👌

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 23 2020 6:43 PM

MJ. Smith:
similar to how banks may sell your mortgage to other banks or the conversions in a bank merger.

Which has much more sensitive info.

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 24 2020 2:41 AM

David Taylor Jr:

MJ. Smith:
similar to how banks may sell your mortgage to other banks or the conversions in a bank merger.

Which has much more sensitive info.

Why even worry about it? Most people have already had their identity stolen and they don’t even know it! 

DAL

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 24 2020 4:23 AM

DAL:
Why even worry about it? Most people have already had their identity stolen and they don’t even know it! 
so true

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Joseph Sollenberger | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 24 2020 4:48 AM

Wearing a tin foil hat will allow one to blend into the general population and keep an identity secret. Wink

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 25 2020 5:59 AM

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife):

Also, we do plan to start selling these books on logos.com soon. We have a few things to do before we can offer them for sale.

Good Morning Mr. Ben... any updates on selling these in the Logos store?  Maybe a WordSearch Flash Sale? :)  Wasn't sure what the timeline was on selling some of them.  Thanks!

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Paul Caneparo | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 25 2020 6:02 AM

Don't suppose we'll get a weekly free book today. 😉😉

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 25 2020 6:35 AM

Paul Caneparo:

Don't suppose we'll get a weekly free book today. 😉😉



The weekly free books were nice!

We pretty much get that, but all up front as it is.

Verbum, Logos, faithlife ebooks, etc.

This thread shows much of that:
https://community.logos.com/forums/t/193901.aspx

You could probably add a thousand volumes or so (perseus if you're into OL Studies) to your logos library if you add them all today.

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Paul Caneparo | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 25 2020 9:14 AM

abondservant:

Paul Caneparo:

Don't suppose we'll get a weekly free book today. 😉😉



The weekly free books were nice!

We pretty much get that, but all up front as it is.

Verbum, Logos, faithlife ebooks, etc.

This thread shows much of that:
https://community.logos.com/forums/t/193901.aspx

You could probably add a thousand volumes or so (perseus if you're into OL Studies) to your logos library if you add them all today.

I was a Faithlife customer anyway.  Most of my WordSearch books were the free ones!

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 26 2020 11:03 AM

David Taylor Jr:

DAL:
Why even worry about it? Most people have already had their identity stolen and they don’t even know it! 
so true

So not true. If you've ever been in the identity-business, the sloppy people are best. And in the future, re-creating you is best with the most. The old joke about the bear and 2 hunters will always be 'so true' ... nothing is perfect; just be better than the next guy (or gal).

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Colin Ware:
Getting back to my concerns, both WS and Logos have privacy policies. Is it possible for some Logos official to comment on how these policies guided the transition; the affects privacy the transition has and confirm that arrangements meet the privacy policy of both organisations.

Your personal information was handled in accordance with Faithlife's privacy policy. We used email address as the key to associate Wordsearch user data with Faithlife systems. Data was transferred over encrypted channels and shared only with the personnel required to perform the import into our systems.

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Kolen Cheung | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 28 2020 10:07 AM

Superb!

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John C Connell Jr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 30 2020 1:23 PM

Implementation of LessonMaker Questions for Adults.

Can you do this in two phases?

Phase 1) Just get the questions out there.

Phase 2) Do it the best way.

Be strong and courageous. . . for the LORD your God is with you wherever you go.

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