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Keith Steele | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 18 2020 4:10 PM

I waffled between Logos and Wordsearch for a while before I settled for the simplicity of Wordsearch, so you are right to abandon the "Wordsearch" approach.

As for starting from scratch, the only thing I can say is to dive into the tutorials of which there are many.  There are even sites that seem to make good money selling tutorials for Logos and they get old quickly due to the changes and upgrades that Logos is constantly making, but, still somewhat apply.

Logos has amazing sync capability and their app is amazing if you use the phone or iPad app, so that will be an upgrade if you use that. You can drag the windows to where ever you want them.  You can even "pop out" a window to use it next to another program if you want.  When it comes to highlights, they are basically attached to a note, (if I remember correctly and it hasn't changed).  That concept took some getting used to.

Be careful what free resources you take advantage of if you don't want a cluttered library.  I forget the name but I got a ton of free ancient works, Plato, Aristotle in Greek and English  and Civil War stuff that I'll never use.

The answer to one of your questions:

The email I received for Faithlife said that Wordsearch would continue to work, but, it will no longer be updated and you will no longer be able to purchase resources for it.  Thankfully Wordsearch didn't require you to be online to work.

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Myke Harbuck | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 18 2020 4:11 PM

CJ Walker:

1. I'm concerned about how to best tag everything that I regularly consulted in WS so they show up in my Logos custom guides & workflows now. Is there a way for me (someone there at FL) to produce a list (i.e. csv, excel, etc.) of all the WS resources that either migrated over or are pending? or some comparable management system on the END-USER side. I understand this is a large process for your teams, and will be happy to hear your advice on how to see what is what in my library from each platform.

All I ask is, please, let me know what is going on with each of the "books" being migrated (while it was only a license technically, they are still "books" to me). As a pastor, these "books" many times are my "friends," and I want to make sure that none of my "friends" slip through the cracks. I expect I'll need to be as meticulous as if physically moving them from one "bookshelf" to another in my study. Your team has expressed how they are handling the "heavy lifting" for me, and I am VERY thankful for their assistance, but I need an easy way to see what moving over so I can tag accordingly (i.e. which will be simple monographs vs. bible commentaries, etc.)

I've requested here that Logos consider auto tagging these as WS resources. Hopefully they will. But you can easily tag the resources that came over today as "Wordsearch" and then compare that to the bibliography you can generate out of WS.

If you need help with either of these things, let us know.

Myke Harbuck
Lead Pastor, www.ByronCity.Church
Adjunct Professor, Georgia Military College

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CJ Walker | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 18 2020 4:15 PM

Thank you.

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Stephen Cloud | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 18 2020 4:15 PM

I'm actually quite excited to learn about Logos taking over Wordsearch.  I purchased the software and most of my books/etc. back when it was Bible Explorer.  Never felt like the computer version of Wordsearch was as good as BE.  Also owned titles on both Logos and WS, so it's nice to have everything in once place.

That being said, I do not use Logos very much when doing my weekly prep for my teaching.  I realize that they are two different programs.  Can you provide some links to some "set up" and "training" videos on Logos?  I know it's not rocket science, but would love to learn some of the shortcuts, etc.  Thanks!

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Bill McVicker | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 18 2020 4:18 PM

Thank you so MUCH!!!! Just tried it works Great... Now to find out about my 2 missing MacArthur commentaries on Matthew and Acts... LOL  so far this has gone remarkably smoothly

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Tes | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 18 2020 4:31 PM

Bill McVicker:

Just tried it works Great... Now to find out about my 2 missing MacArthur commentaries on Matthew and Acts... LOL  so far this has gone remarkably smoothly

congratulation Bill. 

Blessings in Christ.

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Tes | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 18 2020 5:01 PM

I can see only one resource imported Barnes notes.

Blessings in Christ.

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Dan Winsby | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 18 2020 5:28 PM

I have mixed feelings about this I must admit. I have used Logos for years, since the 90's and have enjoyed the power of its app. However, the pricing often puts materials well outside my ability to afford. I don't have any book allowance to draw from. Wordsearch provided me an opportunity to afford titles I would not have been able to otherwise.

I do appreciate your continuing to accept the perks program. I was surprised at that, and grateful. 

It will be nice to have the resources in one place.

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CJ Walker:
1. I'm concerned about how to best tag everything that I regularly consulted in WS so they show up in my Logos custom guides & workflows now. Is there a way for me (someone there at FL) to produce a list (i.e. csv, excel, etc.) of all the WS resources that either migrated over or are pending?

Because every Logos user's and Wordsearch user's libraries are different, we don't have a list customised to you. You can search your Logos Library for {AddedDate 1d} to find everything downloaded in the last day, then tag those how you want.

I'm not sure what sort of tagging you need on resources for them to show up in your custom guides, so it's hard to answer your specific question more thoroughly.

CJ Walker:
Frequently, I used the WS IVS feature to run a search which pasted into a "Card File" in the software, how will these show up in Logos?

I'm not familiar with the "Card File" feature. Is this Note Stacks, or something else?

We're still planning how WS user-created documents will import into Logos, but Note Stacks will come in as Logos Notes.

CJ Walker:
Some WS resources were vital enough to me that I took the labor to convert them to personal books in Logos for my own personal study and use. If there are any highlights, notes, etc. tied to those now essentially duplicate personal books, is there a way to merge them into the actual resource now, or am I just up the creek on that?

We're going to import notes and highlights from Wordsearch ebooks into the corresponding Logos editions, but we can't move notes from your private PBBs, sorry.

CJ Walker:
All I ask is, please, let me know what is going on with each of the "books" being migrated (while it was only a license technically, they are still "books" to me).

We realise that this is important to a lot of customers, and that you want to know when your library will be completely migrated, or the status of an individual title. So far, we've been able to publish a basic list of all resources at https://www.logos.com/wordsearch-library-migration 

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Myke Harbuck:
I've requested here that Logos consider auto tagging these as WS resources.

There's "no such thing" as "Wordsearch resources" Smile. They're all Logos resources now. Some Logos users may have purchased them through a Logos base package, others through individual purchase, or others via this new import of Wordsearch licenses. If you want to track how you acquired a resource, you can do that by tagging them in your personal Library. We won't be applying any tags to the resources, because the method of acquisition is particular to each individual customer, and not a property of the resource itself.

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Willie Harris, Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 18 2020 6:05 PM

Thanks...I'm loving the new experience with Logos. In regards to not seeing everything transfer over, I noticed that my New Living Translation (NLT) Bible didn't transfer to Logos. Is this a license issue? I didn't see the NLT in https://www.logos.com/wordsearch-library-migration. Thanks.

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Michael Skinner | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 18 2020 8:55 PM

Phil,

How long will it take for my Wordsearch resources to merge into Logos?  I have been a user of both platforms over the years.  I'm considering some possible upgrades, but I want to wait until everything transfers.  I really can't make a clear decision on anything until my libraries merge.  Thanks for any help.

Michael

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Richard Ogg | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 18 2020 9:51 PM

Bradley Grainger:
CJ Walker:
Frequently, I used the WS IVS feature to run a search which pasted into a "Card File" in the software, how will these show up in Logos?

I'm not familiar with the "Card File" feature. Is this Note Stacks, or something else?

We're still planning how WS user-created documents will import into Logos, but Note Stacks will come in as Logos Notes.

"Card File" and "Note Stacks" are different.

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Bradley Grainger (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 18 2020 10:02 PM

Richard Ogg:

"Card File" and "Note Stacks" are different.

How do you access "Card File" in Wordsearch? Google isn't turning up any documentation on this feature for me.

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Bradley Grainger (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 18 2020 10:06 PM

Willie Harris, Jr:

Thanks...I'm loving the new experience with Logos. In regards to not seeing everything transfer over, I noticed that my New Living Translation (NLT) Bible didn't transfer to Logos. Is this a license issue? I didn't see the NLT in https://www.logos.com/wordsearch-library-migration. Thanks.

I'm not seeing NLT in your Wordsearch licenses. Can you confirm the version you have in Wordsearch by going to the Library, right-clicking on NLT, choose Properties, and copying the Book ID?

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Bradley Grainger (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 18 2020 10:10 PM

Michael Skinner:

How long will it take for my Wordsearch resources to merge into Logos?  I have been a user of both platforms over the years.  I'm considering some possible upgrades, but I want to wait until everything transfers.  I really can't make a clear decision on anything until my libraries merge.  Thanks for any help.

It looks like we don't have your Wordsearch licenses yet; please check back on Monday.

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Dan Winsby | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 19 2020 12:38 AM

This might have been mentioned already, and if so I apologize.

I am wondering about the Complete Biblical Library, and if this will at some time make it to Logos, and for those that purchased it through Wordsearch. I notice that the commentary seems to be coming at some point. Wondering about the rest of the set.

Thanks much

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Roy | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 19 2020 12:47 AM

go here  https://www.logos.com/wordsearch-library-migration and search for "complete biblical library"

you will see that the plan is to bring over the commentaries, the Greek/Hebrew dictionaries, and the OT/NT Study bibles.

(It's a long list!)

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CJ Walker | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 19 2020 1:01 AM

I've noticed that the majority of resources so far have migrated only as monographs. Is there a plan to update any to Bible Commentary type? (e.g. Tony Evans Bible Commentary, Exalting Jesus Series, NAC Theology Series, etc.). Just wondering what to expect. It will determine how I tag them in the end as either non-versified or other.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 19 2020 1:11 AM

CJ Walker:

I've noticed that the majority of resources so far have migrated only as monographs. Is there a plan to update any to Bible Commentary type? (e.g. Tony Evans Bible Commentary, Exalting Jesus Series, NAC Theology Series, etc.). Just wondering what to expect. It will determine how I tag them in the end as either non-versified or other.

Bradley commented on that issue at https://community.logos.com/forums/p/193800/1116903.aspx#1116903 

So it looks as though conversion to fully tagged resources will happen but over time.

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