Library Tags - My Tags, Community Tags what is it used for.?

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Mark Rolfe | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Oct 11 2020 5:35 PM

Does anyone use My Tags to reorganize their library resource list ? Or what is it used for.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 11 2020 5:42 PM

I use them to tie related resources together e.g. Bible Study Guides is my most common addition. Because Community Tags rarely meet my needs, I tend  to ignore them. For an average evangelical user I suspect they are more useful.

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 11 2020 5:47 PM

I typically use my tags to form collections on the go while searching.

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Mark Rolfe | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 11 2020 8:04 PM

I am new to logos. When I left or right click or double click on My Tags, nothing happens. How do you use My Tags?

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 11 2020 8:34 PM

They are used primarily as selection attributes in the Library panel or in a Search

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Mark Rolfe | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 11 2020 9:15 PM

As an example, I could assign in "My Tag", a Tag to ESV, RSV, NIV as my most important Texts in my library, but where is the option to assign a tag? Is it part of Search?

I seem to be missing something.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 11 2020 9:30 PM

Tags are added to a resource in the information panel which can be accessed in the library or from the panel menu of the resource. See https://wiki.logos.com/Tagging 

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Mark Rolfe | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 11 2020 9:42 PM

Thank you for that. I did not know about wiki.logos. 

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 12 2020 7:53 AM

Mark Rolfe:
a Tag to ESV, RSV, NIV as my most important Texts in my library,

Using prioritization may accomplish this in your search results - https://wiki.logos.com/Prioritizing or https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019683652-Prioritize-Resources 

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 12 2020 7:58 AM

Prioritization does not affect the ordering of results in searches.

It does in Guides, the Context menu and in other places

Mark - what are you trying to achieve?

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Mark Rolfe | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 12 2020 2:26 PM

I am creating subsets for some of  the standard logos groups. I have Academic Prof and I am using tags to reduce the number of items in some of these.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 12 2020 3:18 PM

What do you mean by “standard Logos groups” and how are you trying to reduce the number of items in them?

Sorry - but I don’t quite understand what you wrote and I’m trying to see if there is any advice we can provide that would help.

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Mark Rolfe | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 13 2020 1:36 PM

By standard groups I mean those in "Type". I suppose I am trying to set up a parallel category in My-Tags which has what I want in various groups. But one problem I've found with a "Series" is that all individual books are treated separately, so if I have a Tag called BCom (bible commentaries) and I bring in a series, then I could have 50 or more titles in BCom and defeat my purpose. So for a Series I will use the Logos "Series Filter". I am looking to set up away I becoming aware of what is in the library.  

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 13 2020 1:48 PM

Hi Mark

Sorry - but I'm still not understanding what you are trying to achieve so I'm afraid I can't give any advice

Graham 

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 13 2020 1:59 PM

Mark Rolfe:

Does anyone use My Tags to reorganize their library resource list ? Or what is it used for.

Just adding to MJ and Graham. I have all my resources tagged (5k or so). I never use collections (maybe once). And I don't query by any of Logos's various categories ... subject, type, series, etc. It's just a whole lot easier tagging, even if some front-end time.  

As an example, I type in Comm40 and quickly have all my commentaries on Mathew. Done. I also re-title with prefixes, so they'll sort ... like in a 'Bible'. And if I type '40', I have everything on Matthew, no matter the type. 

I also take advantage of Logos filtering as you type. General precedes specific. Like JewishTargums or JewishTalmud or JewishLaws. Typing jewish brings them all up, then more specific.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 13 2020 3:55 PM

Mark Rolfe:

Does anyone use My Tags to reorganize their library resource list ? 

not re-organize but organize beyond what FL gives us in the fields in the library. Some examples:

  • I tag all commentaries and also monographs that deal with a specific bible book with its specific bible book number, such as #01 - Gen for Genesis and so forth, #61 - Mt for Matthew ... This helps me to see series in order (FL uses a similar numbering scheme in their filenames and there are "canonical" collection rules in the forum and the wiki. While I still have those collections, someday I may delete all of them since my tag has this information and I can save on startup time). It allows very easily to see all commentaries on a biblical book, construct searches limited to those books, and gives structure to the many type:bible-commentary resources - and some more who are different types. Beyond the subject field it allows me to include books which have a "weird" subject entry, and those who lack a subject like all edition:eBook monographs, even if they are commentaries (the EGGNT currently is a case in point). Yes I give ten such tags to a commentary that covers the ten minor prophets - and I'm glad to find all on e.g Nahum even if the series all 'slice and dice' the smaller books differently.     
  • I tag all fiction books with a tag "fiction". This is something many users do, at least for edition:eBook (former Vyrso) books, so you'll see a community tag with this entry for many fiction books such as novels. I sometimes differ and tag "biography", sometimes I prefer a tag like "classics" or use both. 
    Thus it helps to run a search like  tag:fiction -mytag:fiction  to see potential candidates for mytag:fiction that I may have missed or tagged otherwise deliberately.
  • I tag all lectionary resources with their index tag (i.e. YMD if it is present, RCL, CathLC etx) - this is necessary because Logos does not (yet) expose the index information and other "traits" in library fields. I think I need this info.
  • Same goes as "RI" for all bibles which have Reverse Interlinears and an additional tag for those of them that do (and don't) work in the interlinear text comparison tool. 
  • Those two are just samples of what I often look for. If I was starting with Logos now and with a smallish library, I'd tag all index information except page for all my books.  
  • Sometimes I tag the "canonical" author names when Logos uses different ones supplied by their publishers - thus, being "sloppy" instead of precise and filtering for the author's name only instead of the content of the author field, I can catch all of their works (if one knows about the different names, one can OR them or search for a list)
  • I use some other tags that help me, like theological traditions Lutheran, Catholic, Reformed (incomplete for sure!)
  • I tag all resources with a tag "mystuff" (or equivalent for temporary licenses). Thus I can easily see untagged resources as new and in need of tagging. 

Investing a few seconds every now and then into a tag (mostly directly upon purchase) allows being relaxed the year long, getting the results I need and not becoming too frustrated with incomplete or inconsistent metadata in the library.

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Mark Rolfe | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 13 2020 6:02 PM

Thanks for all these replies and I'll experiment along these lines. 

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 13 2020 8:25 PM

Also use MyTags for resource information beyond Library fields

  • ?Plagiarism? (with MyTag for plagiarism source: ?D.A.Carson?, ?F.F.Bruce?)
  • Apostolic Fathers (Subject metadata is incomplete)
  • Application (includes a number of eBooks that do not have Library metadata)
  • BibleApparatus (subset of Apparatus resources)
  • BibleGrid (subset of Bibles for searching with results in Grid)
  • Biography (Subject metadata is incomplete plus includes some eBooks)
  • Commentary grouping when written
    • Commentary1Antiquity
    • Commentary2Medieval
    • Commentary3Reformation
    • Commentary4Awakenings
    • Commentary5Modern
    • Commentary6Contemporary
    • Commentary7Recent
  • Commentary grouping by type, see thread => Collection rules for sorting commentaries (updated for Logos 8 Base Packages)
    • Commentary-Background
    • Commentary-Devotional
    • Commentary-Expository
    • Commentary-Intermediate
    • Commentary-Jewish
    • Commentary-Pastoral
    • Commentary-Technical
    • Commentary-Textual
  • Counsel (includes some eBooks that do not have Library metadata)
  • deprecated (old Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia resources that should not be used anymore)
  • Discourse (Subject metadata is incomplete for Discourse insights/discussions)
  • Family (includes some eBooks that do not have Library metadata)
  • fr (Friberg Greek Morphology: an Analytical Greek New Testament)
  • he (Logos Hebrew Morphology)
  • HebrewGrid (subset of Hebrew Bibles for searching with Grid results)
  • Headword Indexing (for various languages)
    • HW:English
    • HW:German
    • HW:Greek
    • HW:Hebrew
    • HW:Latin
    • HW:Spanish
  • Interlinear (Interlinear menu appears in resource)
  • InterlinearNT (Interlinear only in New Testament)
  • InterlinearTextComparison (Bibles enabled by Faithlife for Text Comparison Interlinear using Online connection)
  • js (Swanson Greek Morphology - 2 NT Resources)
  • lbs (Logos Greek Morphology - hundreds of Resources)
  • lemma (English Discourse NT has lemma tagging while lacking morphology tagging)
  • lls (GRAMCORD Greek Morphology - 4 NT Resources)
  • OldTestamentPseudigrapha (Subject metadata is inconsistent)
  • Survey (subject metadata does not identify General survey resources)
  • Top2 (Custom Commentary Series, see thread => Creating a New Series of Commentaries)
  • Topical (Subject metadata unhelpful for Topical Dictionaries & Encyclopedias)

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Bruce Roth | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2020 5:54 AM

I spent a significant amount of time tagging my books once I stumbled on a document by Bruce Dunning.  Here is link to the most recent thread which has a link to the updated document showing his tagging system.  I took from that what I wanted and made my own. 

http://community.logos.com/forums/p/194226/1120286.aspx#1120286

I tag books once they are added to the library.  Just takes a couple of minutes.  Very useful to filter the library looking for a set of books on a topic or book of the Bible.

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