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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Oct 28 2020 1:38 AM

#ReadLater is a personal thing, but if you have Community Tags turned on, when you search for #ReadLater, you see what's in everyone else's Read Later lists, not just your own. The only way to make this new feature useful is to turn off Community Tags.

This makes me worry that all of my personal tags are being shared to other people when they turn on Community Tags. Is this the case? That would be kind of weird. I use all kinds of tags like "Bought: 20201027" to mark when I bought resources and "Base: L7 Portfolio" to mark what packages I acquired resources in. I wouldn't want to be cluttering other people's Community Tags lists with junk like that.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 28 2020 3:41 AM

I'm afraid that our 'junk' is being shared. But I'm not interested in the junk of others. I evaluate my resources in a unique way.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 28 2020 3:45 AM

Well, I normally keep Community Tags off, but for some reason it was on when I just experimented to see if the new #ReadLater thing worked. It's a nice idea, but poorly implemented, IMO. I think I'll just continue using the method I had been using, which was to use my own tag "TOREAD" on things I want to read.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 28 2020 4:00 AM

As I understand it, tags can be shared because they are on the FL server.

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Rosie Perera:

#ReadLater is a personal thing, but if you have Community Tags turned on, when you search for #ReadLater, you see what's in everyone else's Read Later lists, not just your own. 

This is intentional; as with other community tags, you can see how the community has tagged a book, or is most interested in reading.

Rosie Perera:
The only way to make this new feature useful is to turn off Community Tags.

Or search for mytag:#ReadLater

Rosie Perera:
This makes me worry that all of my personal tags are being shared to other people when they turn on Community Tags. Is this the case?

No.

The most popular tags are aggregated and shared to the community, not individual tags.

Rosie Perera:
I use all kinds of tags like "Bought: 20201027" to mark when I bought resources and "Base: L7 Portfolio" to mark what packages I acquired resources in. I wouldn't want to be cluttering other people's Community Tags lists with junk like that.

If many other people also marked the same resource "Bought: 20201027" (because you all bought it as part of a package deal and you use the same tagging philosophy?) and that was also one of the top five most common tags on that resource, then it would show up in community tags. This seems unlikely, though.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 29 2020 1:36 AM

Bradley: Does #ReadLater sync from the mobile app to the desktop? I marked a book to Read Later on my mobile app, and still a day later I'm not seeing it tagged as #ReadLater on my desktop.

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Rosie Perera:

Bradley: Does #ReadLater sync from the mobile app to the desktop? I marked a book to Read Later on my mobile app, and still a day later I'm not seeing it tagged as #ReadLater on my desktop.

My understanding is that it does; I will ask the team if there are reasons it wouldn't.

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Rosie Perera:
Does #ReadLater sync from the mobile app to the desktop?

Confirmed that it is supposed to work that way: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/194797/1128867.aspx#1128867 

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Bradley Grainger (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 29 2020 10:03 AM

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):
I will ask the team if there are reasons it wouldn't.

They suggest manually performing a "Sync Now" and seeing if the icon changes to an exclamation mark (indicating errors).

(I think they were talking about the Android app, but you could do that in Logos 9, too.)

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 29 2020 3:45 PM

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):
I will ask the team if there are reasons it wouldn't.

They suggest manually performing a "Sync Now" and seeing if the icon changes to an exclamation mark (indicating errors).

(I think they were talking about the Android app, but you could do that in Logos 9, too.)

Hi Bradley, that doesn't work. Did "Sync Now" in Logos 9 and still the book that I'd added to my Read Later list on my Android didn't get the #ReadLater tag.

I also tried doing "Sync your data" on my Android, but the icon is an exclamation mark, both before and after I did that. That would explain why the data isn't syncing from my Android to the cloud. But what errors does it indicate? And how do I fix that?

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Rosie Perera:
I also tried doing "Sync your data" on my Android, but the icon is an exclamation mark, both before and after I did that. That would explain why the data isn't syncing from my Android to the cloud. But what errors does it indicate? And how do I fix that?

That sounds like the problem. I believe if you choose Help > Report a Problem in the Android app App Menu, it'll send log files to our support/dev team for investigation.

https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360008914572-Report-a-Problem-in-the-Logos-Bible-mobile-app 

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Michael Hunt | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 29 2020 8:50 PM

I had a glitch of some sort when I added a book to #readlater that for some reason didn't seem to sync. removing it and then adding it fixed the problem (I believe it was the one resource I added from Android so may have been a temporary glitch).

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 30 2020 11:47 PM

Michael Hunt:

I had a glitch of some sort when I added a book to #readlater that for some reason didn't seem to sync. removing it and then adding it fixed the problem (I believe it was the one resource I added from Android so may have been a temporary glitch).

I've tried that already several times, and it didn't fix the glitch.

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Luuk Dondorp | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 31 2020 12:58 AM

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):

This is intentional; as with other community tags, you can see how the community has tagged a book, or is most interested in reading.

Bradley,

I am VERY worried that Faithlife doesn’t understand that you cannot do this “intentionally“ without the users consent. It should be switched off and only being switched on only when the USER intentionally wants to use it. And by the user only. Not the other way around. 

Sharing Is a personal thing and therefore a personal decision. Not a decision Faithlife can make for its users. Please do a way better effort to guarantee the privacy of your users. Aggregated or not, that is not the point and is not an answer because it follows after the decision to share. 

Thank you for your understanding!

Luuk

 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 31 2020 2:13 AM

Luuk Dondorp:
I am VERY worried that Faithlife doesn’t understand that you cannot do this “intentionally“ without the users consent.

Unfortunately, I take the opposite view. I don't want to be bothered by choosing what to anonymously share at a detailed level. The feedback options are as far as I want to go. I tend not to use the aggregated data because it doesn't reflect my demographics. And I tend to find, what I have set rarely makes it into popular entries ...

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Luuk Dondorp | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 31 2020 4:16 AM

The point is that I just don't want to share at all without knowing this is happening. Even when it is anonymously or aggregated. I just do not want to be bothered by checking each and every feature if and what is being shared. And I also do not want to be bothered by questions if I want to or what (detailed level) I want to share. When I want to share I can do this on my own initiative. So I guess we are on the same line, from a different viewpoint probably. 

The standard should be: all sharing switched off. 

Luuk

 

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 31 2020 6:29 AM

Luuk Dondorp:
Even when it is anonymously or aggregated. I just do not want to be bothered by checking each and every feature if and what is being shared.

There is one setting in Program Settings to turn off sending feedback to Faithlife. There is one setting in Program Settings to turn off seeing other people's community tags. There is one setting in Program Settings to turn off seeing other people's resource ratings.

“God watches over the affairs of those who truly love him without their worrying about them.”St. John of the Cross

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Luuk Dondorp | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 31 2020 6:47 AM

SineNomine:

There is one setting in Program Settings to turn off sending feedback to Faithlife. There is one setting in Program Settings to turn off seeing other people's community tags. There is one setting in Program Settings to turn off seeing other people's resource ratings.

That is exactly what I mean: all of these should be turned off as the default setting. Even when there was just one setting to turn off all sharing options at the same time....it should be turned off by default. 

Luuk

 

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