9.0 SR-2 (9.0.0.0181) is now available

Philana R. Crouch
Philana R. Crouch Member, Logos Employee Posts: 4,597
edited November 21 in English Forum

The Logos Bible Software desktop application version 9.0 SR-2 is now available to all Logos 9 users.

To immediately update to the current stable version, enter the Update Now command. Otherwise, the app will automatically update the next time it's scheduled to check for updates.

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  • Kevin S. Coy, OFS
    Kevin S. Coy, OFS Member Posts: 315 ✭✭

    Thank you!  That fixed my Docs crash!

    “Let us begin, brothers, to serve the Lord God, for up until now we have done little or nothing.”  St. Francis of Assisi

  • David Taylor, Jr.
    David Taylor, Jr. Member Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭

    Do you have to manually update? It is saying no new updates when I do the command UPDATE NOW

  • Do you have to manually update? It is saying no new updates when I do the command UPDATE NOW

    Does command Set Update Channel to Stable cause an update ?

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • David Taylor, Jr.
    David Taylor, Jr. Member Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭

    " rel="nofollow">Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) said:

    Do you have to manually update? It is saying no new updates when I do the command UPDATE NOW

    Does command Set Update Channel to Stable cause an update ?

    Keep Smiling Smile

    LOL why would I do that? [:P]

  • James Hudson
    James Hudson Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭

    Philana,

    Still no update notification in Logos itself (the little blue circle) when I update. I actually updated before this thread and didn't know what the SR-2 contained!!

    This is the same on 2 separate computers (a laptop and my surface pro).

  • Myke Harbuck
    Myke Harbuck Member Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭

    Philana,

    Still no update notification in Logos itself (the little blue circle) when I update. I actually updated before this thread and didn't know what the SR-2 contained!!

    This is the same on 2 separate computers (a laptop and my surface pro).

    Same for me. So I downloaded the application and did a manual install.

    Myke Harbuck
    Lead Pastor, www.ByronCity.Church
    Adjunct Professor, Georgia Military College

  • Steven Baxley
    Steven Baxley Member Posts: 151 ✭✭

    You might check your version ... mine updated to SR-2 without any notification at all that it was updating, so maybe your's did too.

  • David Wanat
    David Wanat Member Posts: 1,834 ✭✭✭

    In my case, I was just notified that I was downloading 209mb of updates. Looking at the ”about” section confirmed it was SR-2

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  • James Hudson
    James Hudson Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭

    Thanks for your reply.

    Yes it updated on my systems too but my point was as you confirmed ‘without any notification at all’.

    Logos used to notify users of any and every update (application, resources, datasets etc) via the notification icon (little blue circle). It works fine for resources but not for application upgrades anymore (as far as I can tell - and now others seem to be seeing the same). Hence it is a bug that Philana needs to look at!

    Thanks again and every blessing.

  • David Thomas
    David Thomas Member Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭

    Yes it updated on my systems too but my point was as you confirmed ‘without any notification at all’.

    I'm glad users are notifying Philana about unexpected behaviors. I'm a little different from James' experience. I got a "blue dot" notification when the application updated to SR1 and asked if I wanted to restart. But SR2 updated without notification. I'm able to find the release notes in these Forum posts (thank you, Philana!) but understand why users who don't frequent the forums would desire "blue dot" release note links.

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  • Philana R. Crouch
    Philana R. Crouch Member, Logos Employee Posts: 4,597

    Yes it updated on my systems too but my point was as you confirmed ‘without any notification at all’.

    I'm glad users are notifying Philana about unexpected behaviors. I'm a little different from James' experience. I got a "blue dot" notification when the application updated to SR1 and asked if I wanted to restart. But SR2 updated without notification. I'm able to find the release notes in these Forum posts (thank you, Philana!) but understand why users who don't frequent the forums would desire "blue dot" release note links.

    We are aware of the release notes issue, but we're not sure why this is occurring.

  • James Hudson
    James Hudson Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭

    We are aware of the release notes issue, but we're not sure why this is occurring.

    Thanks for the confirmation!!

    I look forward to a solution when you have tracked it down.

    For reference (to link to your case):

    It doesn't seem to make a difference whether Logos has been running for a long or short time.

    It happens on all my systems running Win 10 Pro with latest updates

    I didn't get the 'blue dot' notification for any L9 updates (but worked fine for new resources and datasets)

    Not sure how much help that will be. I'm willing to try anything you suggest.

  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,043

    We are aware of the release notes issue, but we're not sure why this is occurring.

    Was this functionality perhaps disabled for secret pre-launch beta testing and then accidentally not re-enabled?

    “The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara

  • mab
    mab Member Posts: 3,060 ✭✭✭

    I turned off automatic updating back with version 8 when I still was stuck with some dinosaur machines. I still have this in effect. Logos 9 has updated flawlessly since 8.17 SR-1 on Monday morning. Three times is charmed[8-|]

    The mind of man is the mill of God, not to grind chaff, but wheat. Thomas Manton | Study hard, for the well is deep, and our brains are shallow. Richard Baxter

  • Bruce Fraser
    Bruce Fraser Member Posts: 109 ✭✭

    Philana,

    The "download link" in your post goes to a page with the sub-heading "How to Install Logos 8 Bible Software."

    And when I run the LogosSetup.exe there, it says I'm already running the latest version. And I'm on 8.17 SR-1, 8.17.0.0014.

  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Administrator, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,395

    Philana,

    The "download link" in your post goes to a page with the sub-heading "How to Install Logos 8 Bible Software."

    And when I run the LogosSetup.exe there, it says I'm already running the latest version. And I'm on 8.17 SR-1, 8.17.0.0014.

    That is correct. Access to the Logos 9 beta installers requires the purchase of a Logos 9 package.

    A free Logos 9 package will be available sometime early in the new year.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Bruce Fraser
    Bruce Fraser Member Posts: 109 ✭✭

    Andrew,

    Thanks for solving the confusion.

    Now please go one step further, and correct Philana's original post which says "version 9.0 SR-2 is now available to ALL users." (my emphasis).

    That will help everyone immensely!

  • Bruce Fraser
    Bruce Fraser Member Posts: 109 ✭✭

    Hi Andrew,

    Ah yes, I see Philana's original post now reads "now available to all Logos 9 users." That really doesn't help though. The title for this whole thread is "Version 9 is now available." Well, that's not exactly what it says, but that will be how many people will understand it, unless they read to the very bottom of this thread, and see what you wrote.

    What you wrote in your post should be in the very top post, something like:  "Version 9 is available ONLY to people who buy a version 9 upgrade. The free version will be available some time in 2021."

  • Bruce Fraser
    Bruce Fraser Member Posts: 109 ✭✭

    Hi Andrew,

    Even better than my last couple of suggestions: Make a brand new post with that basic information that Version 9 is available only to people who buy the upgrade. Then make it so that post remains at the top of "Logos 9 Desktop App" forum. So it will always be the first thing people see when they come to the version 9 topic. (Probably do the same for

    That way, you don't go through this hassle every time a new update notice is posted.

  • Philana R. Crouch
    Philana R. Crouch Member, Logos Employee Posts: 4,597

    We are aware of the release notes issue, but we're not sure why this is occurring.

    Was this functionality perhaps disabled for secret pre-launch beta testing and then accidentally not re-enabled?

    No, we saw this occur earlier, but we still do not know why they don't show up since nothing changed in the code as far as we can tell.

    Until then, once you get an update you can always find a link to the current release notes in the forum announcement. I try to make that post sticky until I ship the app again.

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  • Adam Borries (Logos)
    Adam Borries (Logos) Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 881

    Make a brand new post with that basic information that Version 9 is available only to people who buy the upgrade. Then make it so that post remains at the top of "Logos 9 Desktop App" forum. So it will always be the first thing people see when they come to the version 9 topic

    Thanks for your suggestion, Bruce, but I don't think a brand new post is needed. It's already pretty clear on Phil Gons's announcement post that Logos 9 is available only for purchase: 

    I’m pleased to announce that Logos 9 is now available for purchase online, over the phone (888-875-9491), and by email (sales@logos.com) in EnglishSpanishGermanPortugueseKorean, and Mandarin Chinese (Traditional and Simplified)—with French coming in 2021.

    I've also edited the pinned "Logos 9 Features" post in this forum for added clarity: 

    Some features will be free for all users in Logos 9 Basic (coming in Q1 2021)...

    Thanks for chiming in.

  • Simon’s Brother
    Simon’s Brother Member Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭

    So what your saying Adam I’d users have to know about and have read another post to be clear about this post. C’mon that is ridiculous. Why are you not wanting to be transparent on this post ? Show a bit more respect to all Logos users than what you are showing right now with this display of attitude on a simple request to ensure official FL posts are clear as to who the intended audience is of the post. Just because your not impacted doesn’t mean you should dismiss the concerns of a user who is impacted. Disappointed in your response to say the least.

    Make a brand new post with that basic information that Version 9 is available only to people who buy the upgrade. Then make it so that post remains at the top of "Logos 9 Desktop App" forum. So it will always be the first thing people see when they come to the version 9 topic

    Thanks for your suggestion, Bruce, but I don't think a brand new post is needed. It's already pretty clear on Phil Gons's announcement post that Logos 9 is available only for purchase: 

    I’m pleased to announce that Logos 9 is now available for purchase online, over the phone (888-875-9491), and by email (sales@logos.com) in EnglishSpanishGermanPortugueseKorean, and Mandarin Chinese (Traditional and Simplified)—with French coming in 2021.

    I've also edited the pinned "Logos 9 Features" post in this forum for added clarity: 

    Some features will be free for all users in Logos 9 Basic (coming in Q1 2021)...

    Thanks for chiming in.

  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,043

    So what your saying Adam I’d users have to know about and have read another post to be clear about this post.

    It looks pretty clear to me now:

    The Logos Bible Software desktop application version 9.0 SR-2 is now available to all Logos 9 users.

    “The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara

  • Bruce Fraser
    Bruce Fraser Member Posts: 109 ✭✭

    Thanks for your suggestion, Bruce, but I don't think a brand new post is needed. It's already pretty clear on Phil Gons's announcement post that Logos 9 is available only for purchase: 

    I’m pleased to announce that Logos 9 is now available for purchase online, over the phone (888-875-9491), and by email (sales@logos.com) in EnglishSpanishGermanPortugueseKorean, and Mandarin Chinese (Traditional and Simplified)—with French coming in 2021.

    Hi Adam,
    Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I think the message to users still needs improvement.

    Let's look at things from the point of view of the user, not an expert and not someone who has thousands of posts on the forums. User sees the promotions for Logos 9. Even the program itself, in "About" has a red flag which effectively says, "You're missing the bus! Click here to Get Logos 9." Which takes User to the website where User can buy Logos 9, starting at the "bargain" price of CAN$428.

    User says, "No, I just want to update to the latest version. I don't need to add even more resources which I never use." User sees on the header on every page of the Logos website, the prominent link "Download Logos." User clicks on that, and finds the download for version 8. User thinks, "What? Clearly the person they hired to keep the website up to date is having a nap. A very long nap."

    So User goes to the Forums to see what others have found. "Aha! Here it is: 'Logos 9 Desktop App.' Excellent!"  [Notice that User never even thinks about looking at the "General" forum, where Phil's announcement is cleverly hidden.]

    User sees the title "Logos 9 Features," but thinks, "No, I don't care about all the fancy tricks. I just want to keep my system up to date." So User scrolls down until she finds "... now available."

    Which is where this whole thread began. I'm not making up some crazy and unlikely story. I'm describing exactly what happens to ordinary users, as you can see in some of the comments in this thread.

    So, once again, I'm asking Faithlife to pin a post at the very top of the Logos 9 Desktop App forum, a post with the title something like: "How to obtain Logos version 9."

    Now THAT is something that everyday User will see and read!

  • Philana R. Crouch
    Philana R. Crouch Member, Logos Employee Posts: 4,597

    Philana,

    Still no update notification in Logos itself (the little blue circle) when I update. I actually updated before this thread and didn't know what the SR-2 contained!!

    This is the same on 2 separate computers (a laptop and my surface pro).

    This has been fixed in 9.2.

  • James Hudson
    James Hudson Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭