Book Study or Factbook or what?

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 1 2020 1:32 PM

xnman:
Graham.... No. I don't get that picture... 

Interesting - you should get a Dictionaries entry, it might contain different dictionaries to the one in my picture.

Can you post a screenshot (use the paperclip icon in the forum editor) showing what you do get?

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 1 2020 1:34 PM

xnman:
I was hoping some guide or book would bring up things like that quickly and save me time. 

Bible book explorer

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cshover8669 | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 1 2020 2:46 PM

xnman:

Let's try one more time....

I try to Factbook for epistle to the (Ephesians, Galatians, Colossians, etc) and I still have to poke thru dictionaries, commentaries etc  to try to find date book was written. And the problem is, with Factbook, I have less choices to look at. 

So... I don't understand how to use Factbook to find when a book of the Bible written (date)? Don't get me wrong, I know how research it and find it, but I was hoping some guide or book would bring up things like that quickly and save me time. 

It's probably me... sometimes I just stare at a wall tooo much. 

I would try the Bible Book Explorer then. It shows the date from a bunch of resources right up front. See screen shot.

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Sascha John | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 2 2020 1:41 AM

sorry that I don't get your point. All answers you get will give you the Information in Seconds.

Just for you I go into the english, open the Factbook and...(10 Seconds) And I just have the Starter so you shoot have it to hope this helps you.

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xnman | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 2 2020 2:00 AM

I thank you guys/gals are so patient with me. 

Yes....  I see the dictionaries now....  my apologies about not seeing it before. I had to scroll down.... which I should have noticed. 

No...  In the Starter Package.... I cannot find the Bible Explorer.

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Sascha John | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 2 2020 2:14 AM

Yes I was talking on the Bible Knowledge Commentary who has an Indroductan and is Part of Starter. You can find many free resources include the Lexham Bible Dictonray and the Faith Life Study Bible where you also find many Information hope this helps...and I know this many times after hours of discussion "oh I have to scroll down" we all been there :-)

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 2 2020 2:52 AM

xnman:
Yes....  I see the dictionaries now....  my apologies about not seeing it before. I had to scroll down.... which I should have noticed. 

That's good news

xnman:
No...  In the Starter Package.... I cannot find the Bible Explorer.

Yes - it requires the Silver Upgrade Feature set or higher

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Larry Quinlan | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 2 2020 9:02 AM

I agree with the original poster that it’s a reasonable expectation that if one enters a name of a book of the Bible in the Factbook that one might get at least the basic “facts” of the book at the top of the pane. Instead, what I got was pretty much useless “fluff” (see below, left). (Am I really wanting to know that some theologians give “props” to the book? It is, after all, you know… the word of God!) Logos might want to rethink their algorithm on this…

Having said that, it is pretty easy to find the information that the original poster was seeking. Just scroll down to Bible Book Guide and Dictionaries, and, presto, the information is there (see below, right). Easy peasy!

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Doc B | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 2 2020 9:54 AM

Something seems to be assumed about the question that is not really a safe assumption. The idea of "the date a book was written" is problematic as the date of writing of many of the NT books (and all of the OT books) is not agreed upon by scholars...in fact, in some cases there is not even a consensus.

So the possible dates of authorship will vary (sometimes significantly) depending on the resources chosen and the approach by the author. Knowing this variation will probably save on some confusion when looking for the best/easiest way to find dates of authorship.

(For the nit-pickers, I'm not arguing there isn't a date of authorship or the date is not knowable, I'm pointing out what researching that date looks like in Logos 9 and thus trying to be helpful to the OP.)

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Sean Boisen | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 2 2020 10:15 AM

xnman:

I know I can go in my library and pull up information say on the book of Galatians. I can get the date written, author, where written, etc and etc.  This is not the quickest way, I'm a thinking.

Maybe I don't have my collections right? May I don't have things prioritized right?

But I thought some of the study tools would do all this but I don't know which study tool to use. I have tried most if not all and no luck on my part. So, my question is.....  how do I find such information about a book of the Bible?   And thank you for the help!

Summarizing the helpful information others have provided:

  • For dates specifically, the Bible Books Explorer (new to Logos 9) gives a nice overview of the ranges, as others have pointed out. 
  • For other general overview information about Bible books, there's a special section in Factbook called Bible Book Guide. This links to resources in your library that discuss various issues like who wrote it, when, from where, to whom, etc. Read more about this in Bible Book Guide: Dataset Documentation. In particular, the Information section of that resource describes the various categories we've used in the Bible Book Guide content.  
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PL | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 2 2020 10:35 AM

Didn't realize the Bible Book Guide section has been there since Logos 6. Very useful, thank you!

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