Visual Filter: Frequency of Words

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Kent Maitland | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Jul 12 2010 9:05 AM

Is there a way to make a visual filter by word count? I would like to be able to have a filter that marks hapax legomena, or maybe words that occur about 10 times or less in the NT. 

Thanks!

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Kevin Becker | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 12 2010 9:13 AM

I don't think so, You could accomplish this with a custom exegetical guide, I'll go make one and then post a screenshot.

EDIT:

Unfortunately, the Guide can only display 15 or so verses at a time...

When Word lists are introduced in a future release I can imagine being able to generate a list of all single occurrence words so they could be highlighted... Right now you could do the same thing with a very long visual filter with one word per line, very cumbersome to construct!

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 12 2010 10:52 AM

Kent Maitland:

Is there a way to make a visual filter by word count? I would like to be able to have a filter that marks hapax legomena, or maybe words that occur about 10 times or less in the NT. 

You could create one manually if you had a list of the word frequencies to work from. I don't know of a list of all the hapax legomena and my library is now re-indexing so my searching has been futile. All I found was that NIDOTTE does note when a word is a hapax legomenon by marking it hapleg, so you could search for hapleg and pick up all those words one by one (that would be a tedious task but better than typing them all in manually if you had a printed list of them). Thus you could create a visual filter by listing all those words. It would take lots of entries in the VF, but you could to several per line separated by commas. I'm having a hard time getting it to work, but that's because it will only match the exact form of the word as it appears in the manuscript, not the lemma. There might be some way to do a lemma match in a VF, but I'm not sure. I tried this syntax -- lemma:זֵעָה -- and that didn't work.

I'm afraid this isn't a very helpful answer. But it sure would be nice to have a way to do this!

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 12 2010 6:07 PM

I have built filters on the most commonly used forms using the data available at: http://www.biblicalgreek.org/grammar/vocabulary.php - I put some screen shots on the forums early but don't recall why.

http://www.biblewebapp.com/study/ allows you to find rare words

I'll try a couple of things that I think might work and get back to you.

 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 12 2010 6:11 PM

Kevin Becker:
You could accomplish this with a custom exegetical guide

I can't resist asking: how many lemmas occur less than 1 time and how does Logos identify them?

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Kevin Becker | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 12 2010 6:25 PM

MJ. Smith:

Kevin Becker:
You could accomplish this with a custom exegetical guide

I can't resist asking: how many lemmas occur less than 1 time and how does Logos identify them?

Big Smile I wondered if someone would ask.

It appears that the Exegetical guide should read # Words or less. I ran this guide and it did find two hapax legomenon in a passage.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 12 2010 6:29 PM

Kevin Becker:
It appears that the Exegetical guide should read # Words or less.

Some Logos interface designer just flunked logic 101 (or math 101)

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 12 2010 6:34 PM

MJ. Smith:
how many lemmas occur less than 1 time and how does Logos identify them?

H8090 not found in Hebrew

 

(although KJV shows it once), couldn't resist the challenge Smile

 

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Kevin Becker | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 12 2010 6:53 PM

You're right. In fact I'm going to go post a bug report in the Beta forum.

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Andrew Yates | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 26 2013 11:44 AM

Has there been any development in this area? I'm trying to do the same for Hebrew and crashed Logos. (whoops!)

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 26 2013 12:21 PM

The attached text file can be copied and pasted into a a morph visual filter and used to identify NT Hapax Legomena. I haven't created one for Hebrew yet, though.

I might try that again now, however.

3365.hapax-legomena.txt

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 27 2013 8:12 AM

Kent Maitland:
I would like to be able to have a filter that marks hapax legomena

I've added a Personal Book that lists Hebrew hapax legomena, and includes a search string you can use in a visual filter.

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Chad M. Foster | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 27 2013 8:34 AM

This still goes back to the old discussion of the word lists.  We have these lists that we create but then can do very little with them.  There really ought to be a way to create a visual filter from all lemmas in a wordlist.  This would make this task really simple and would be very beneficial for teachers/students. 

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 27 2013 9:10 AM

Chad M. Foster:
There really ought to be a way to create a visual filter from all lemmas in a wordlist.

Agreed - or better still a search, as you could create the filter from the search, but you can't do the other way around.

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Mark Barnes:

The attached text file can be copied and pasted into a a morph visual filter and used to identify NT Hapax Legomena. I haven't created one for Hebrew yet, though.

I might try that again now, however.

3365.hapax-legomena.txt

Hi

Thank you very much, for this!
Please, Have you created one for Hebrew yet?

Pr. Elivando Mesquita.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 9 2020 3:36 AM

Elivando Carvalho de Mesquita:
Please, Have you created one for Hebrew yet?

There is a Hebrew visual filter here: https://fl.vu/t23se8, and a Personal document here: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/70793.aspx

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