John Cassian: The Institutes (Ancient Christian Writers)

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Michael Faltas | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Nov 18 2020 1:54 AM

Would like to know why John Cassian's "The Institutes" is not on Logos even though it is part of the Ancient Christian Writers series (which is on Logos in its entirety) and even though it has been released in 2000 which is before other volumes in the series which are already on Logos.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 2:22 AM

I believe it is there https://verbum.com/product/40940/ancient-christian-writers-bundle or am I missing something? This appears to be the  individual item https://verbum.com/product/157135/john-cassian-the-conferences 

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 2:39 AM

MJ. Smith:
his appears to be the  individual item https://verbum.com/product/157135/john-cassian-the-conferences 

No, I don't think so. It seems to be a separate book: https://www.amazon.com/Boniface-Ramsey/dp/0809105225 which I don't see in the ACW bundle or anywhere in the Verbum/Logos shop

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Ken McGuire | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 2:57 AM

The Institutes and The Conferences are indeed separate books. I got The Conferences in print c. 2005 since I was excited that it was finally available complete in English for the first time, and picked it up in the Spring Verbum sale for 10 bucks. But The Institutes is a different (and shorter) work, for which Boniface Ramsey came out with an edition for ACW at about the same time as his edition of the Conferences.

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Sascha John | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 4:10 AM

Any intress on a Personal Book? You can download a Wordfile frome here

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Ken McGuire | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 5:18 AM

Not really, especially since the English I found there was the old version many of us have from NPNF as a destination for https://ref.ly/logosref/Cassian.De_Instit._Ceonob

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Sascha John | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 6:08 AM

Yes

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Michael Faltas | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 6:49 AM

The NPNF version is also not complete. It is missing one full chapter. The ACW version is the only complete version in modern English available.

Not sure what is the reason why it is not on Logos since the rest of the series is there?

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Donald Antenen (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 11:11 AM

We'll be getting more volumes from ACW that we don't currently have.

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Michael Faltas | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 11:20 AM

Thank you. Can you give me an idea of when that will be (just looking for a ballpark time frame)?

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Donald Antenen (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 11:25 AM

Michael Faltas:

Thank you. Can you give me an idea of when that will be (just looking for a ballpark time frame)?

I don't have a specific timeline, but you should see them appear on prepub in the coming months.

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Michael Faltas | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 12:17 PM

Thank you very much! I really appreciate you getting back to me and giving me an approximate date. 

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 2:43 PM

Donald Antenen (Faithlife):

We'll be getting more volumes from ACW that we don't currently have.

Yes

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Mark Nolette | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 3:05 PM

A big +1 on Institutes!  It is indeed a separate book.  It is very important for its witness to early monasticism and its treating of the eight principal vices or deadly thoughts - which evolved in the West into the Seven Deadly Sins.  

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Michael Faltas | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 1 2021 11:39 AM

Hello,

We are approching about a year now. Are there any updates on this? I don't see any new volumes from Ancient Christian Writers series on Pre-pub. 

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