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Gerald P. Swetsky | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Dec 3 2020 3:27 PM

I remember seeing "Report a Bug" in my menus the other day, but I can't find it now.  Let's call this bug "Great-Grandson".  It's incorrectly called "Grandson".

Gerry




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Gerald P. Swetsky | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 3 2020 6:00 PM

Also, in the "Biblical People Diagram", Enoch is reported as "Seventh from Adam".  Actually, he is Sixth!

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 3 2020 10:44 PM

Gerald P. Swetsky:
Also, in the "Biblical People Diagram", Enoch is reported as "Seventh from Adam".  Actually, he is Sixth!

He is referred to as seventh from Adam in Jude 14.

“Enoch, who lived in the seventh generation after Adam, prophesied about these people. He said, “Listen! The Lord is coming with countless thousands of his holy ones” (Jude 14, NLT)

Commenting on this, Davids notes:

Setting aside the issue of the fact that Jude does cite 1 Enoch, we notice that in citing the work Jude names Enoch and calls him “the seventh from Adam.” That is, in Gen 5:3–20 we have the list: Adam—Seth—Enosh—Kenan—Mahalalel—Jared—Enoch. Counting both the first and last person in the list in typical Semitic style, one gets seven. This number was applied to Enoch in more than one Jewish text (e.g., 1 Enoch 60:8; 93:3; Jub. 7:39, “When he was alive in his seventh generation”; and later Lev. R. 29.11, “Among generations, the seventh is preferred: Adam, Seth, Enosh, Kenan, Mehallel, Jered, and Enoch: ‘And Enoch walked with God’ ”). Since seven was a significant number (while much later than our text, the meditation on seven in Lev. R. 29:11 illustrates this point), the number of perfection, Jude mentions it specifically to note the importance of Enoch and thus of what he prophesies, although he does not go into any other details about the history of Enoch.

1 Enoch First (Ethiopic) Enoch

1 Enoch First (Ethiopic) Enoch

Jub. Jubilees

Lev. R. Leviticus Rabba (the great midrash on Leviticus)

Lev. R. Leviticus Rabba (the great midrash on Leviticus)

 Peter H. Davids, The Letters of 2 Peter and Jude, The Pillar New Testament Commentary (Grand Rapids, MI: William B. Eerdmans Pub. Co., 2006), 77.

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Gerald P. Swetsky | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 4 2020 2:59 AM

Though your quote, Jude 14, seems to be taken by Jude from 1 Enoch 60:8, 93:3 or Jubilees 7:39, I won't argue the point.  However in Logos, there should be a note for those like me who would take issue.

However, I still stick with my original post that there is an error in Factbook.

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Gerald P. Swetsky:
It's incorrectly called "Grandson".

Thanks for the report. I've passed this along to the data editors.

Gerald P. Swetsky:
However in Logos, there should be a note for those like me who would take issue.

I've mentioned this too.

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Gerald P. Swetsky | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 4 2020 8:45 AM
Thank you very much! Best wishes! Gerry
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Sean Boisen | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 7 2020 12:48 PM

I've updated the description to "A son of Enosh listed in Luke's genealogy of Jesus."

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Gerald P. Swetsky | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 7 2020 12:52 PM

:)

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 7 2020 1:04 PM

Sean Boisen:

I've updated the description to "A son of Enosh listed in Luke's genealogy of Jesus."

Excellent choice as I would have objected to overriding Semitic tradition. Geeked

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