Catholic Encyclopedia hyperlinks
I have found some instances in the Catholic Encyclopedia where references to Calvin‘s Institutes were not hyperlinked to the resource.
Also, it appears that some of the internal links seem limited to where the catholic encyclopedia says SEE a topic. Words like transubstantiation which are dealt with at length in the encyclopedia do not have internal hyperlinks in the article on consubstantiation, for example, where it is mentioned.
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Hi and Merry Christmas Eric:
You probably didn't know when you purchased it: this is a 'Logos Reader' edition (I didn't know that when I purchased it and was alerted to that in another thread). The Product Details section of the product page doesn't indicate this. In my case, I'm judging it to still be a good value being quite inexpensive in a lower-tier Verbum package, as I'm unlikely to need a lot of in-depth Catholic research. At least it has the 'See....' jump-words tagged, as you have noted. The PB I had previously used only had Headwords tagged, and this one will likely be formatted better and have a better presentation of images. (I haven't checked to see if images are tagged, although I suspect they are not.)
A More Serious Concern: I have now noticed something significantly more troubling: It appears that the 16th volume, a supplement, is missing. I have checked for a couple of early 16th Volume articles found in my .docx, e.g., 'Ancient See of Aarhus' and 'Archpriest Controversy', and they don't appear to be in the Logos Reader resource. I have vision impairments, so maybe someone else can validate. The CCEL PDF for that volume is linked here.
https://www.ccel.org/ccel/h/herbermann/cathen16/cache/cathen16.pdf
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I’m less than happy to learn this is a readers edition. When I pre-ordered, when I purchased Verbum 9, I was expecting a full version. I hope this is upgraded in the future.
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It does seem surprising, after having been in pre-pub for so many years (before Logos Reader Editions even existed), to not have delivered this as a Logos Research Edition.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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Robert M. Warren said:
Hi and Merry Christmas Eric:
You probably didn't know when you purchased it: this is a 'Logos Reader' edition (I didn't know that when I purchased it and was alerted to that in another thread). The Product Details section of the product page doesn't indicate this. In my case, I'm judging it to still be a good value being quite inexpensive in a lower-tier Verbum package, as I'm unlikely to need a lot of in-depth Catholic research. At least it has the 'See....' jump-words tagged, as you have noted. The PB I had previously used only had Headwords tagged, and this one will likely be formatted better and have a better presentation of images. (I haven't checked to see if images are tagged, although I suspect they are not.)
A More Serious Concern: I have now noticed something significantly more troubling: It appears that the 16th volume, a supplement, is missing. I have checked for a couple of early 16th Volume articles found in my .docx, e.g., 'Ancient See of Aarhus' and 'Archpriest Controversy', and they don't appear to be in the Logos Reader resource. I have vision impairments, so maybe someone else can validate. The CCEL PDF for that volume is linked here.
https://www.ccel.org/ccel/h/herbermann/cathen16/cache/cathen16.pdf
Is there a way to notify Logos to have them add Vol. 16? Maybe it was an oversight.
I know it’s free online, like the Jewish Encyclopedia, but even without full tags and hyperlinks it seemed worth $30 to me to have it in Logos to interface with other Resources when searching a subject.
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PetahChristian said:
It does seem surprising, after having been in pre-pub for so many years (before Logos Reader Editions even existed), to not have delivered this as a Logos Research Edition.
What additional features would a Research Edition have?
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Eric Weiss said:
What additional features would a Research Edition have?
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PetahChristian said:Eric Weiss said:
What additional features would a Research Edition have?
Logos Research Editions get the full Logos treatment. We catalogue topics discussed, Scripture references, theological concepts, bibliographic info, citations, and so much more. Then we connect them to Logos tools so you can access essential info in seconds flat.
Logos Reader Editions are designed to be read cover to cover. We tag Scripture references and some other basics, but forgo the robust treatment given to reference works. This drastically speeds up production, enabling us to release them the same day as print!
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Ted Hans said:
Logos Reader Editions are designed to be read cover to cover.
Yikes. I should start now.
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While I'm happy to own this Encyclopedia, it's in the wrong tagging category. Encyclopedias are for research and not intended for reading cover to cover.
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Robert M. Warren said:Hi and Merry Christmas Eric:
You probably didn't know when you purchased it: this is a 'Logos Reader' edition (I didn't know that when I purchased it and was alerted to that in another thread). The Product Details section of the product page doesn't indicate this. In my case, I'm judging it to still be a good value being quite inexpensive in a lower-tier Verbum package, as I'm unlikely to need a lot of in-depth Catholic research. At least it has the 'See....' jump-words tagged, as you have noted. The PB I had previously used only had Headwords tagged, and this one will likely be formatted better and have a better presentation of images. (I haven't checked to see if images are tagged, although I suspect they are not.)
A More Serious Concern: I have now noticed something significantly more troubling: It appears that the 16th volume, a supplement, is missing. I have checked for a couple of early 16th Volume articles found in my .docx, e.g., 'Ancient See of Aarhus' and 'Archpriest Controversy', and they don't appear to be in the Logos Reader resource. I have vision impairments, so maybe someone else can validate. The CCEL PDF for that volume is linked here.
https://www.ccel.org/ccel/h/herbermann/cathen16/cache/cathen16.pdf
Into Grace said:While I'm happy to own this Encyclopedia, it's in the wrong tagging category. Encyclopedias are for research and not intended for reading cover to cover.
I noticed a couple things. The Jewish Encyclopedia seems to also be a Reader’s edition, only highlighting the fact that it links Scripture references.
The Logos description says the Catholic Encyclopedia is 16 volumes. We need to tell Logos to include Vol 16.
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Eric Weiss said:
Are the Vol 16 articles scattered among the 15 volumes?
My quick-check indicates 'no' and I doubt Faithlife would, or be allowed to, restructure the publication in that way. Maybe they didn't obtain rights for the supplement and the persons composing the product page didn't know that.
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Eric Weiss said:
The Jewish Encyclopedia seems to also be a Reader’s edition, only highlighting the fact that it links Scripture references.
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Robert M. Warren said:Eric Weiss said:
Are the Vol 16 articles scattered among the 15 volumes?
My quick-check indicates 'no' and I doubt Faithlife would, or be allowed to, restructure the publication in that way. Maybe they didn't obtain rights for the supplement and the persons composing the product page didn't know that.
It's public domain, though they clearly used the version from newadvent.org.
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Eric Weiss said:
Is there a way to notify Logos to have them add Vol. 16? Maybe it was an oversight.
We need to demand it loudly ... I suspect they thought it was an index rather than glossary/reading list.
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How do we do that?MJ. Smith said:Eric Weiss said:Is there a way to notify Logos to have them add Vol. 16? Maybe it was an oversight.
We need to demand it loudly ... I suspect they thought it was an index rather than glossary/reading list.
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SineNomine said:
It's public domain
In that case, here's Volume 16. Compile as Type: Encyclopedia and set the compiled resource in a Series with the Logos Reader resource and the supplementary articles will display when entered in the reference box of either resource. And let's hope they make this into a Logos Research edition.
2870.Catholic Encyclopedia - Vol 16..docx
BTW, the title of the actual resource does have "I - XV"; it's the product page that has "16 volumes)".
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Robert M. Warren said:SineNomine said:
It's public domain
In that case, here's Volume 16. Compile as Type: Encyclopedia and set the compiled resource in a Series with the Logos Reader resource and the supplementary articles will display when entered in the reference box of either resource. And let's hope they make this into a Logos Research edition.
2870.Catholic Encyclopedia - Vol 16..docx
BTW, the title of the actual resource does have "I - XV"; it's the product page that has "16 volumes)".
Thanks!
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Volume 16 is labeled a supplement.
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How come it doesn’t say in the website that it is a Reader’s Edition? Another “oversight” maybe? It needs to be listed which edition it is for ALL resources since they now had the bright idea to have a “reader’s edition” and a “research edition.”
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DAL said:
How come it doesn’t say in the website that it is a Reader’s Edition? Another “oversight” maybe? It needs to be listed which edition it is for ALL resources since they now had the bright idea to have a “reader’s edition” and a “research edition.”
DAL
I’m more confused that an encyclopedia is a reader edition versus research edition
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MJ. Smith said:
We need to demand it loudly ... I suspect they thought it was an index rather than glossary/reading list.Eric Weiss said:Is there a way to notify Logos to have them add Vol. 16? Maybe it was an oversight.
In other words, that no one from Faithlife looked at Volume 16 before deciding not to produce it. And whoever was involved in that decision never looked at the product page, either. I think that Faithlife's process for deciding what to produce ought to include an actual human looking at all of the volumes; if it does, that step got missed. Maybe it should take two people to decide not to produce any particular part of x?
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Mattillo said:
I’m more confused that an encyclopedia is a reader edition versus research edition
I was just speculating, and am surprised that this hasn't been answered 'officially'!
However, I wonder if the reason this came out of 'pre-pub' is because it was auto-converted as part of the Wordseaarch transition and therefore is in the queue for conversion to a Research Edition.
If that is the case then it may well be the whole process happened with little human interference and we will get a more refined resource fairly quickly.
On the other hand I may be completely wrong. Which is a state my wife reckons I should be used to.
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That would be nice, but it doesn't seem to be in the Wordsearch Catalog.
Still, one can hope this will end up as a Research Edition.
(Is there a partially right state?)
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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PetahChristian said:
Still, one can hope this will end up as a Research Edition.
I sorta doubt it will. The one thing I've noticed so far that it seems to be missing is Date tagging.
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