Make the Dark mode so it can be used

Bootjack
Bootjack Member Posts: 746 ✭✭
edited December 16 in English Forum

Please get the dark color so it's able to be used, for at present, it's next nigh to impossible to see the icons. 

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  • Please attach screen shot(s) showing icon(s) that are challenging to see. What color combination(s) are especially difficult to decipher ?

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  • Michael
    Michael Member Posts: 305 ✭✭✭

    Here are my examples.  Same passage on Windows 10 and MacOS.  Each OS has their own issues with dark mode.  Windows 10 is probably closest to being useable.  Both have been updated to 9.2.

    Windows 10 - all shades of purple font are unusable.  Yellow highlight background with white text is hard to read, but still better than what's on MacOS.

    MacOS - purple font is readable.  Light background highlights are worse than on Windows.

    Here's what it looks like in Light Mode on Windows 10.  MacOS looks the same.

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Michael said:

    Here are my examples.

    Agree some font colors are hard to read on black background. That seems to be up to the user to choose what colors to use that are visible against black, just as you wouldn't want to use a white colored font against a white background.

    In your initial post you mentioned it's hard to see the icons. What icons are you referring to? Do you mean the one before the word "Scripture" in verse 4:3? Or icons at the top of the tabs?

  • Bootjack
    Bootjack Member Posts: 746 ✭✭

    This is a screenshot of what I presently have here in dark mode. Let me know what you think. 

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  • Bootjack
    Bootjack Member Posts: 746 ✭✭

    Thank you Michael for your screenshots. Do you see Logos giving us options to adjust this to our own liking? 

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  • Michael
    Michael Member Posts: 305 ✭✭✭

    Michael said:

    Here are my examples.

    Agree some font colors are hard to read on black background. That seems to be up to the user to choose what colors to use that are visible against black, just as you wouldn't want to use a white colored font against a white background.

    In your initial post you mentioned it's hard to see the icons. What icons are you referring to? Do you mean the one before the word "Scripture" in verse 4:3? Or icons at the top of the tabs?

    The problem isn't that Logos doesn't have options, it's that none of the options fix the issue for some colors.  

    For example, none of the shades of purple font work for Dark Mode.  I tried every color.  All of them are extremely hard to read or impossible to read on Windows 10.

    It seems that there is work being done that isn't being mentioned on the patch notes.  So with each update I play around with the highlight palette to see what has changed.  It's been going in a positive direction, but undocumented.

    An example would be the yellow background highlighter.  The behavior is now different in a positive direction on Windows.  I think they need to have Dark Mode with yellow background to switch the font to black instead of white.  I can force it to use a black font color, but only by selecting white.  White in Dark Mode is automatically setting to black.  The problem of course is if I change the program to Light Mode, the font is still white which makes it unreable.

    So the issues with Dark Mode are 2 fold.

    1. Some color just aren't optimal (all shades of purple font)
    2. An option that works in Dark Mode may not be readable in Light Mode and vice versa.

    So the challenge for the developers is to make each option that's readable in one mode to also be readable in the other.  For now I have to compromise my color choices to be optimal for one or the other.

  • Bootjack
    Bootjack Member Posts: 746 ✭✭

    An interesting reply Michael and a still very complex issue with Logos and its colors. 

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