Announcement: Forum image upload changes

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Bradley Grainger (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Mar 1 2021 5:20 PM

We are changing the forums to use Faithlife's standard image hosting feature, known as "Amber".

This system is already used by Faithlife.com, our wikis, and the Logos Media Tool (among others). It provides a central place to store and manage all the media you're using across Faithlife products.

Because Amber is a modern platform that's being actively developed (unlike the forum software itself), it offers some new features that we think will be useful for posting:

  1. Upload by pasting an image from your clipboard into the Amber picker, instead of having to save it to a file on disk first.
  2. Upload multiple files (e.g., log files) at once by using drag-and-drop from Explorer/Finder.
  3. More file types supported.
  4. Files are served from a global content delivery network, so they should load faster.

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Levi Durfey | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 2 2021 7:13 AM

Thanks for this upgrade. I really like how we will be able to save screenshots on Amber for use in other posts.

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I should have mentioned that you can also access Amber through its own website (where you can manage your own media, and media for any groups you belong to) at https://amber.faithlife.com/.

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PL | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 2 2021 8:23 AM

Why is there still an "Insert/Edit Image" icon next to the "Insert Attachements/Media" icon?

It's also not clear how to insert an image from the clipboard. I pressed Ctrl-V to paste an image from the clipboard, it shows up in the edit window (it's still there, I can see it), but it doesn't show up in the published posting.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 2 2021 8:33 AM

PL:
It's also not clear how to insert an image from the clipboard. I pressed Ctrl-V to paste an image from the clipboard, it shows up in the edit window (it's still there, I can see it), but it doesn't show up in the published posting.

Hm. You mean you just used Ctrl-V in the forum editor? This won't work and hasn't worked ever, I think.

(next line is a pasted-into-the-forum-editor screenshot, probably invisible)

What is new with Amber is that you can use Ctrl-V in the Amber popup which uploads the screenshot to Amber without any further steps. Hitting Insert there will close Amber and put the screenshot here:

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This works.

Running Logos 9 latest (beta) version on Win 10

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PL | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 2 2021 9:07 AM

I tried both. Neither showed up.

Trying again in Amber... it seems to work now. Thanks.

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PL:
Why is there still an "Insert/Edit Image" icon next to the "Insert Attachements/Media" icon?

We are just replacing the attachment functionality initially. It probably makes sense to remove that other icon, now.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 2 2021 1:05 PM

Bradley,

The one thing it is missing is the Delete function.  I just noticed an image I wasn't conscious of uploading + many associated tags.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 2 2021 1:19 PM

Dave Hooton:
The one thing it is missing is the Delete function. 

Image

(this is asset details. In the other view, scroll down to the end, righthand side)

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 4 2021 6:29 PM

Thanks for that. I can get rid of some wiki images now.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 5 2021 3:50 AM

When uploading images using Chrome on my IPad, I am requested to sign in to Amber each time.

Is anyone else seeing this?

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 5 2021 6:01 AM

Graham Criddle:

When uploading images using Chrome on my IPad, I am requested to sign in to Amber each time.

Is anyone else seeing this?

This is a me-to post!

Me to 

(but on my iMac)

tootle pip

Mike

How to get logs and post them. (now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs)

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Graham Criddle:
Chrome on my IPad

As you may know, this is really Safari.

We have some single sign-on problems with Amber in Safari due to it blocking some cookies we need. We have a team actively working on solving this problem. In the meantime, I wonder if you might be able to go to https://amber.faithlife.com and sign in there? Hopefully that would save the authentication for when the picker opens inside a forum post.

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 5 2021 9:37 PM

Obviously, for some Amber is common knowledge, but I have never heard of it before.  Is there some documation available?

Blessings,
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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 5 2021 11:01 PM

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):
As you may know, this is really Safari.

Please clarify - I have the Chrome app installed on my iPad and use it to access these forums.

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):
I wonder if you might be able to go to https://amber.faithlife.com and sign in there?

When I followed that link on my iPad I had access to my area on Amber as I was already logged in - but there was still a requirement to sign in when trying to add an image to a forum post.

I signed out and back in again and the issue remains.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     

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Graham Criddle:

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):
As you may know, this is really Safari.

Please clarify - I have the Chrome app installed on my iPad and use it to access these forums.

Apple doesn't allow third-party web browser engines in the App Store, so any other browser you install is really just a "theme" around Safari; hence the authentication problems with Safari present themselves.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 6 2021 10:23 PM

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):
Apple doesn't allow third-party web browser engines in the App Store, so any other browser you install is really just a "theme" around Safari; hence the authentication problems with Safari present themselves.

Chrome, Firefox, and Opera web browsers can be downloaded from their own web sites (did not find them in Apple's App Store on macOS 10.15.7)

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 6 2021 10:53 PM

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):
Apple doesn't allow third-party web browser engines in the App Store, so any other browser you install is really just a "theme" around Safari; hence the authentication problems with Safari present themselves.

Thanks Bradley, I did not know that.

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 11 2021 8:38 PM

This is an absolute pain to use on phones. I’ve read and tried all your suggestions and they make no difference Bradley, you are still required to sign in to Amber every time , even when you are signed in to the Amber website and using SafarI. And once you get to the amber site, the screen size is hard to navigate and work out what you are supposed to br clicking on to get it to work and insert a screen shot in your message.

Something that used to be simple and quick  is now painful and convoluted for phone users the device in which I use the forums the most. Why does FL insist on implementing something they no is buggy and going to cheese off their customers ? These speaks volumes about how poorly you consider segments of your customers needs and the impacts on them when you push this sort rubbish onto us. 

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Maybe we can disable it for mobile devices.

(Honestly, the forums are so horrible to browse from a phone that it didn't cross my mind that this would be a common user scenario. I apologise for overlooking this.)

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