Timothy Keller Preaching

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Phil Tuften | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Apr 12 2021 1:42 AM

Hi, 

I could not find Tim Keller's Book on Preaching listed in English.  Suggest that FL add it as there is another language ed for sale but not the English ed.

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 12 2021 9:15 AM

Phil Tuften:

Hi, 

I could not find Tim Keller's Book on Preaching listed in English.  Suggest that FL add it as there is another language ed for sale but not the English ed.

Phil,

I may misunderstand your post, but, is this what you're looking for? https://www.logos.com/product/136715/preaching-communicating-faith-in-an-age-of-skepticism 

Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.

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Phil Tuften | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 12 2021 3:03 PM

Thanks Beloved,

Yes it is, but, now I know why I did not see it.  It is not available in my country, Australia.

Thanks for your time and effort.

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 12 2021 4:23 PM

Phil Tuften:
 It is not available in my country, Australia.
I hate that regional restriction practice. I really can't understand the issue. It restricts the market and seemingly foregoes income.

Edit:It is also found in a few bundles are these also unavailable to you?

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 12 2021 4:41 PM

Beloved Amodeo:
I really can't understand the issue.

It is very simple really. When an author signs a contract, they sell specific rights - rights for first publication in North America (common for poetry or academic papers), rights for publishing in North America for 15 years, rights to publish a Spanish version, world-wide rights in all languages ... The company the buys those rights is what Logos deals with ... and the company cannot sell rights that they do not own. Hence, if an author sold English rights to two publishers with different geographic distribution - then Logos can only sell the resource in accordance to the rights they purchased which is usually with only one of those publishers.

It boils down to: Publishers can't sell what they don't own; Faithlife can't buy what the publisher can't sell; Faithlife can't sell if they don't own the right to do so

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 12 2021 5:16 PM

MJ. Smith:

Beloved Amodeo:
I really can't understand the issue.

It is very simple really. When an author signs a contract, they sell specific rights - rights for first publication in North America (common for poetry or academic papers), rights for publishing in North America for 15 years, rights to publish a Spanish version, world-wide rights in all languages ... The company the buys those rights is what Logos deals with ... and the company cannot sell rights that they do not own. Hence, if an author sold English rights to two publishers with different geographic distribution - then Logos can only sell the resource in accordance to the rights they purchased which is usually with only one of those publishers.

It boils down to: Publishers can't sell what they don't own; Faithlife can't buy what the publisher can't sell; Faithlife can't sell if they don't own the right to do so

These rights, is there a cost incurred? Meaning are North American rights less costly than world-wide rights?

Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 12 2021 5:33 PM

Beloved Amodeo:
These rights, is there a cost incurred?

Generally - that is how authors earn money from the publisher for its sales and for the publisher's share of the secondary (Faithlife) sales.

Beloved Amodeo:
Meaning are North American rights less costly than world-wide rights?

Generally although the author and their literary agent have their own criteria for what represents a fair price.

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 12 2021 5:43 PM

MJ. Smith:

Beloved Amodeo:
Meaning are North American rights less costly than world-wide rights?

Generally although the author and their literary agent have their own criteria for what represents a fair price.

It would make sense then if FL would tend towards obtaining world-wide rights when available and only accept more restricted rights when they were all that could be negotiated.

Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 12 2021 6:39 PM

Beloved Amodeo:
It would make sense then if FL would tend towards obtaining world-wide rights when available and only accept more restricted rights when they were all that could be negotiated.

I suspect that is what they do given the pattern of restricted rights

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 12 2021 7:24 PM

MJ. Smith:

Beloved Amodeo:
It would make sense then if FL would tend towards obtaining world-wide rights when available and only accept more restricted rights when they were all that could be negotiated.

I suspect that is what they do given the pattern of restricted rights

In some cases Faithlife initially obtains rights to sell a product to certain locations and then is able to expand that list after additional negotiations, e.g., https://verbum.com/product/188341/the-liturgy-of-the-hours-according-to-the-roman-rite & https://verbum.com/product/192293/the-augustine-bible. (If I remember correctly, they were both originally US-only; the former is now North America-only and the latter appears to now be available worldwide, although there was at least one intermediate stage.)

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 13 2021 12:48 AM

SineNomine:
& https://verbum.com/product/192293/the-augustine-bible. (...)  appears to now be available worldwide,

I wish that was true... While there's no box saying "restricted for sale to [...]" on the product page, it still has the frustrating message "The publisher has not made this resource available for purchase in your country or region." instead of a buy-button 

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