Hebrew searching with wildcards

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Joshua Jensen | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, May 8 2021 5:07 AM

I would like to construct a search in the following form:

lemma:לֹא@G BEFORE 1 WORD [any noun] BEFORE 1 WORD lemma:וְ@C BEFORE 1 WORD [any noun]

I can't figure out how to get "any noun." If I do something like lemma:*@N (which is the syntax I'd expect), I get nothing.

Obviously I don't understand wildcards, because a simple search like lemma:?@C or lemma:*@C limited to Genesis 1 gives me exactly 0 results, but there are plenty of conjunctions in Genesis 1!

(Just giving me a link to where I can find the right information would be sufficient. No doubt this is well-documented somewhere, but I can't find it.)

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Andrew Batishko | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 8 2021 7:53 AM

Get rid of what you've got currently, and type the @ symbol. This will pop up a selection menu where you can select Noun. When you click out of the popup to close it, you will be left with the syntax you want. Note that different resources can use different morphologies, each of which can use their own set of codes.

Essentially the problem here is that you should be trying to also specify the lemma.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 8 2021 2:32 PM

Joshua Jensen:
lemma:לֹא@G BEFORE 1 WORD [any noun] BEFORE 1 WORD lemma:וְ@C BEFORE 1 WORD [any noun]

Your syntax is essentially correct for a Morph Search  e.g. lemma:לֹא@G = <lemma> followed by <part of speech>. So [any noun] will be <part of speech for Noun> i.e. type @ and select "Noun" from the drop-down, ensuring that you select "Logos Hebrew" at the top.  You may end up with @N, but most likely you will get <LogosMorphHeb ~ N?????>, which you can use in a Morph/Bible/Basic Search.

So your Morph Search query will look like:

lemma:לֹא@G BEFORE 1 WORD <LogosMorphHeb ~ N?????> BEFORE 1 WORD lemma:וְ@C BEFORE 1 WORD <LogosMorphHeb ~ N?????>

This works fine for a Bible with Hebrew reverse interlinear like ESV, NIV, CSB but be aware that you will get very different results with a Hebrew Bible because the order of words is different and because many words are concatenated, affecting the spacing you need.

For more info see Morph Search in the wiki https://wiki.logos.com/Search_HELP

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 8 2021 2:44 PM

Dave Hooton:
lemma:לֹא@G BEFORE 1 WORD <LogosMorphHeb ~ N?????> BEFORE 1 WORD lemma:וְ@C BEFORE 1 WORD <LogosMorphHeb ~ N?????>

This can be varied if you want [any Negation] @G and [any Conjunction] @C i.e.

<LogosMorphHeb ~ G> BEFORE 1 WORD <LogosMorphHeb ~ N?????> BEFORE 1 WORD <LogosMorphHeb ~ C?> BEFORE 1 WORD <LogosMorphHeb ~ N?????>   ----> this will provide more results.

If you wanted the specific lemma, try:

lemma:לֹא BEFORE 1 WORD <LogosMorphHeb ~ N?????> BEFORE 1 WORD lemma:וְ BEFORE 1 WORD <LogosMorphHeb ~ N?????>

----> this doesn't affect the results

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Joshua Jensen | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 9 2021 1:24 AM

Perfect. Thanks.

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