Need Zoom Feature for Atlas and Media!

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Jun 30 2021 12:29 PM

Frankly, I'm flabbergasted. I thought with the introduction of Carta and The Sacred Bridge this issue had been met, addressed and resolved. For a software as storied as Logos this is unacceptable. We need support for this basic feature.

This has been an issue for far too long and release of high quality resources with gobs of maps and media should be supported by a reliable viewer with infinite zoom capability and ability to pan around without limitation available across all platforms. How am I supposed to see the image I offer in exhibit below taken from The Sacred Bridge? Is the image a thumbnail for one available elsewhere? I don't know.

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 30 2021 12:37 PM

I'm on L7, so I can't speak to L9. But I was surprised the FL mobiles embraced zooming. I discovered just last week!  Surely, L9 isn't behind FL's vaunted mobiles?? (they do have some nice designs)

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 30 2021 12:44 PM

DMB:

I'm on L7, so I can't speak to L9. But I was surprised the FL mobiles embraced zooming. I discovered just last week!  Surely, L9 isn't behind FL's vaunted mobiles?? (they do have some nice designs)

Shut my mouth! I did not know that. I'm running to check it out. Hope is on the horizon.

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 30 2021 12:57 PM

Beloved Amodeo:

DMB:

I'm on L7, so I can't speak to L9. But I was surprised the FL mobiles embraced zooming. I discovered just last week!  Surely, L9 isn't behind FL's vaunted mobiles?? (they do have some nice designs)

Shut my mouth! I did not know that. I'm running to check it out. Hope is on the horizon.

I'm on L9 for iOS on an iPhone can anyone confirm that this is or is not available for this platform? Can you pan Denise?

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 30 2021 1:07 PM

Did you double-click the image?  I only found it, reading my new OT Parallels book on my Biblia app.

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 30 2021 1:18 PM

Double tap, single tap, tap and hold, pinch and spread nada!

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 30 2021 1:23 PM

Well, I thought maybe it's only really new resources. So, I tried the super-old New Bible Atlas. Works (double-tap> Zoom panel):

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 30 2021 4:23 PM

DMB:
Well, I thought maybe it's only really new resources. So, I tried the super-old New Bible Atlas. Works (double-tap> Zoom panel):
I don't doubt what you're saying, but L9 has deprecated this feature. FL please bring your full attention to bear on this essential aspect of your program.

For those of like mind here is an existing feature request to vote on https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-mobile-app/posts/improve-image-viewing-support 

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 30 2021 5:08 PM

Beloved Amodeo:
L9 has deprecated this feature.

I hope I haven't confused ... I use the L7 desktop ((non-zoomable talents) and 9.4.1 mobile (zoomable; haven't updated for a while). Now, I don't have the L9 full-feature which mentions 'mobile features. What those are, who knows.

Are you sure maybe the iphone size doesn't do zooming? I'm on my ios mini, which has a little more room.

But here's your vote request again (not to get in the way):

For those of like mind here is an existing feature request to vote on https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-mobile-app/posts/improve-image-viewing-support 

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John Brumett | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 1 2021 6:39 AM

Is Pan and Zoom available on the desktop?

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 1 2021 6:56 AM

John Brumett:

Is Pan and Zoom available on the desktop?

According to Beloved, no (I'm on L7).

But a little history ... Libronix ('Libby'; L3) had zoomable images, but apparently it was resource specific. In those days, it was like Judges ... there was no king, and licensees did as they sort of wished. Then, the people begged for a king and L4 was born. But just like Saul, they had to 'go back' and honor the earlier licensee agreements. Which is why 'to this day', some earlier resources support zooming, while later ones don't.

'Judging' from the history, and the Logos map flakey zooming, Logosians looking closer at images is Logos-wickedness (except on mobiles, where it's done quite nicely). Maybe it's the Mobilites?

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 2 2021 9:43 AM

Beloved Amodeo:
I don't doubt what you're saying

More to the (mobile) story. My earlier success in zooming was in Biblia 9.4.1. Today, I was in Verbum 9.4.1, and the fairly recent resource had a map! So, I double-tapped it and nothing happened. Over and over. 

After much experimenting, Verbum CAN zoom images. But it's a strange trick: you single tap the top of the image. It thinks you want to alter a highlight (the horizontal menu, with color choices). Then you select the 3-dot menu, and cancel it.  Then double-tapping the image zooms it.

I don't understand why Biblia is rock-solid on zooming (I tried the same resource in both, and made sure all AA settings are alike, as well as preferences).  Best I can see, the Biblia code has to alter the double-tap language to spanish, so the routines are different. And the above trick presumes the image is on a different layer from the text.

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 2 2021 12:05 PM

DMB:

After much experimenting, Verbum CAN zoom images. But it's a strange trick: you single tap the top of the image. It thinks you want to alter a highlight (the horizontal menu, with color choices). Then you select the 3-dot menu, and cancel it.  Then double-tapping the image zooms it.

I cannot zoom L9 on iPhone, Fire HD, or MacOS MacBook Pro. In any case, the zooming ability you describe I doubt is infinite zoom in-out with panning these are the features I am calling for across all platforms and available for both media and maps.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 2 2021 3:35 PM

Beloved Amodeo:

How am I supposed to see the image I offer in exhibit below taken from The Sacred Bridge? Is the image a thumbnail for one available elsewhere? I don't know.

It is a thumbnail when it should be a much larger map, similar to the one on p.338  (The Parthian invasion and the escape of Herod 40 BCE).

I right-click it, select Image and then Copy. Pasting into my image viewer/editor reveals a magnificent, scalable map.

I'll create a thread for Kyle to fix this.

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Steve Maling | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 2 2021 6:45 PM

Thank you, Dave

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Roger Pitot | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 3 2021 6:45 AM

I right clicked and sent the image to powerpoint where it opened full size. I then copied it and added a note to the description "The rise of Herod, 40–37 BCE" and pasted the image.

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 3 2021 8:24 AM

Roger Pitot:

I right clicked and sent the image to powerpoint where it opened full size. I then copied it and added a note to the description "The rise of Herod, 40–37 BCE" and pasted the image.

I double-clicked and examined the zoomed details ... right-keyed for the next one. Easy-peasy ... in A-Company.  Especially nice with Sinaiticus LXX  images too. I'd hate to have to copy/paste page by Bible page.

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 3 2021 12:09 PM

Dave Hooton:

Beloved Amodeo:

How am I supposed to see the image I offer in exhibit below taken from The Sacred Bridge? Is the image a thumbnail for one available elsewhere? I don't know.

It is a thumbnail when it should be a much larger map, similar to the one on p.338  (The Parthian invasion and the escape of Herod 40 BCE).

I right-click it, select Image and then Copy. Pasting into my image viewer/editor reveals a magnificent, scalable map.

I'll create a thread for Kyle to fix this.

Yes, thank you Dave, however...

this is what I'm talking about. Lil'ol Accordance has it, but, we don't. For another example where feature or Kyle is needed is the image Jan Krohn pointed out. https://community.logos.com/forums/p/201686/1172463.aspx 

DMB:
I double-clicked and examined the zoomed details ... right-keyed for the next one. Easy-peasy ... in A-Company.  Especially nice with Sinaiticus LXX  images too. I'd hate to have to copy/paste page by Bible page.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 3 2021 4:19 PM

Beloved Amodeo:

Yes, thank you Dave, however...

this is what I'm talking about. Lil'ol Accordance has it, but, we don't. For another example where feature or Kyle is needed is the image Jan Krohn pointed out. https://community.logos.com/forums/p/201686/1172463.aspx 

That image has to be fixed to be viewable. Otherwise support the  suggestion at https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-mobile-app/posts/improve-image-viewing-support as you mentioned earlier in the thread.

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 3 2021 10:25 PM

A Company runs rings around Logos and then sine more when it comes to the handling of graphic. While it’s nice to have Carta in FL the implementation lags way behind Lil‘ Ol A Company.

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