This is Useless Without Export Functionality

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Frustrated Logos Android User | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Jul 21 2021 10:29 AM

I thought this was pretty cool at first, but now I'm deleting it. The only reason I wanted this app was to be able to do clippings and notes while reading/comparing verses so that I could later export them to Evernote and compile them with my study notes from different books. Previously I had been using ReadEra for this, as it allows you to take quotes, put notes on your quotes, and easily export them to any program you like.

Turns out the Android AND web versions of this app UTTERLY LACK an export feature for clippings and notes, you can't even get them to display on a single page on the web, which would at least allow pdf export. What complete trash in a program that presents itself as academic in orientation. And I don't care what features are available on PC, as I don't have our use a desktop, and would rather use ESword, which is faster and free.

What looked like a nice multifaceted Bible study app actually turns out to be a bloated and crash prone Ebook reader with the only note feature in the universe that doesn't allow export to Google Docs. I changed my rating to 1-star and deleted this, will never look at Logos again. 

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 22 2021 3:30 AM

SineNomine:

Nice to see you trying to assist but I would guess that with a handle like Logos Android Blows Dogs the review (and probably the tone) was inevitable.

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Gregory Lawhorn | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 22 2021 9:01 AM

Logos Android Blows Dogs:
What complete trash in a program that presents itself as academic in orientation. And I don't care what features are available on PC, as I don't have our use a desktop, and would rather use ESword, which is faster and free.

Yes, because all serious academics work solely on their phones.

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Steven Veach | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 24 2021 12:14 PM

Frustrated Logos Android User:

I thought this was pretty cool at first, but now I'm deleting it. The only reason I wanted this app was to be able to do clippings and notes while reading/comparing verses so that I could later export them to Evernote and compile them with my study notes from different books. Previously I had been using ReadEra for this, as it allows you to take quotes, put notes on your quotes, and easily export them to any program you like.

Turns out the Android AND web versions of this app UTTERLY LACK an export feature for clippings and notes,

 

I'm able to highlight a given text (not very easily but still) and can "share" it with any other program on android. I use simplenote for my notes, but I'm sure it would share to ReadEra or Evernote as well. 

Frustrated Logos Android User:

What complete trash in a program that presents itself as academic in orientation. And I don't care what features are available on PC, as I don't have our use a desktop, and would rather use esword, which is faster and free.

 

While I would certainly agree the android app does not have the features of the desktop program, it is still a rather usable app. With the many problems I've discovered on Logos Android while switching over from using a windows laptop to an android phone exclusively, it's still pretty usable. It is much better than MySword, though I have not tried Esword for android. I'll give it a go.  

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 24 2021 12:53 PM

Mike Binks:

SineNomine:

Nice to see you trying to assist but I would guess[....]

I expected that someone other than the original poster was more likely to benefit from my post.

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 25 2021 12:40 PM

SineNomine:
I expected that someone other than the original poster was more likely to benefit from my post.

SineNomine:

And there is hope - the username has changed since OP first posted.

tootle pip

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Roy | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 25 2021 2:48 PM

Steven Veach:
I have not tried Esword for android. I'll give it a go. 

Last I had seen/read/knew anything about it there was no eSword for android. MySword was the closest thing to eSword.

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Steven Veach | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 25 2021 3:04 PM

Roy:

Steven Veach:
I have not tried Esword for android. I'll give it a go. 

Last I had seen/read/knew anything about it there was no eSword for android. MySword was the closest thing to eSword.

I actually found an e-sword program for android called e-sword LT. Here is the link: 

https://baixarapk.gratis/en/app/634158738/e-sword-lt-bible-study-to-go

BUT, it does cost money (not much) and I'm not certain how well it works or if it is an actual program and not a scam. Prior to Logos I used MySword on my phone and it worked okay, especially with the ability to convert my TheWordBible Software modules into MySword modules. But, I did not like the old, obsolete look of the program. I also wanted better search features, and interlinear features.  

I've tried Accordance for android recently and there is simply no comparison between it and Logos. Logos is far superior just in features alone. I used e-sword many, many years ago, before the switch to a different database system. I wouldn't mind finding a free program if it worked better than the logos app, but at this point I'm pretty invested in Logos for Android and it works rather well for what I'm using it for. Most if not all of the issues I've found with it I've been able to find workarounds. That was the one thing I really liked about TW5 was support and quick turn around on issues. With paid programs it just seems like there is a lot of "it can't do that" where with free programs they're more willing to think out of the box and actually fix things when they're obviously broken.  

I really like Logos for its modern UI, and the fact that all the resources I've purchased with the Windows program can be downloaded and used in the Android app (without needing to convert or tinker). If they could just get scrolling fixed and copy passages fixed (and searching results with a keyboard) I would be thrilled. If money is the issue, I think Logos needs to start a program where people can invest in features. Have a list of features with targets on how much it would cost to implement, then let the users raise the funds for that specific feature. I think this would resolve the "abandonment" feeling. 

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Roy | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 8 2021 1:23 AM

Steven Veach:

I actually found an e-sword program for android called e-sword LT. Here is the link: 

https://baixarapk.gratis/en/app/634158738/e-sword-lt-bible-study-to-go

Hi Steven,

Just an fyi, There is no Android version of e-Sword.

e-Sword X is for the macOS.
e-Sword-LT is for the iPhone.
e-Sword-HD is for the iPad.

The creator of e-Sword does not list Android as being supported. I don't think I would trust the site you posted the link for if they can't even list the correct OS that app is suppose to run under.

And to top it off all of the Apple based versions of e-Sword have to be purchased through the Apple Store.

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Steven Veach | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 8 2021 5:38 AM

Yeah, when you click on the download app link it takes you to another page that offers different options to download apps like the e-sword for android. But there is no actual download link for e-sword. 

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Steven Veach | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 8 2021 6:05 AM

Gregory Lawhorn:

Logos Android Blows Dogs:
What complete trash in a program that presents itself as academic in orientation. And I don't care what features are available on PC, as I don't have our use a desktop, and would rather use ESword, which is faster and free.

Yes, because all serious academics work solely on their phones.

I see this term thrown around alot but I'm not certain what a serious academic does that could not be done on the Logos mobile app. If the academic in question is working in a seminary setting, I would imagine they are predominately spending their time 1. lecturing, 2. reading journal articles, 3. writing journal articles, 4. writing books to be published, 5. grading student papers, 6. language based research. Would that cover the work of a serious academic? 

Preparing for lectures could easily be done using Logos mobile and even the preaching mode could be used during lectures. I read journal articles all the time (not necessarily in Logos, but I see no limitation of this) but in a text to speech reader or in an ebook reader. Works fine. I use Word for Android to write journal articles and books. I'm doing the final edits of my dissertation on my android phone exclusively in Word. Works just like it does on a windows laptop (and the more I get used to using Word on Android the better I like it compared to the windows version). Grading student papers could be done either using a pdf reader, ebook reader, or group submissions through Logos (not too familiar with this feature, though I know it's a separate download on Android). Plus, students could submit their assignments via email as well. 

Language based research might be the one that is a little tricky using the mobile app since the dynamic interlinears do not work on Android (which was dissapointing). But, I do have a TR Greek text interlinear, a CT Greek Interlinear, a Hebrew OT and LXX interlinear as well. They are tethered together so no matter where I'm reading at in my main bible, the underlining language bible's follow along and vice versa. The Interlinears area static and I can't hide lines (which is frustrating) but they work. They even allow for lookup while offline as long as you have lexicons to support it. The exegetical guide works pretty well, though, if one is a serious academic, I can't imagine they would use these helps all that much. Wouldn't they be fluent in the original languages? I would imagine these kinds of tools are aimed more at pastors who may not have a handle on the underlining texts.  

I use my android phone in landscape mode for hours at a time without any eye strain at all. I used to get an uncomfortable, boxed-in feeling when I first started, but I think that had more to do with my unfamiliarity with the Android OS than it did with it's actual use. I have not had that feeling in quite some time. In fact, my experience overall with using an Android phone exclusively (and LOGOS mobile exclusively) has been so good I doubt I will ever go back to a traditional laptop. It is really convenient to have my whole computer in my pocket at all times. Plus it's on 24/7.  Many argue with me that the screen is simply too small, but I have not found that to be the case. Plus, if it is really a bother, it can easily be connected wirelessly to a tv screen any size you desire. 

The LOGOS mobile app has a learning curve for certain. It also needs some features added (and some things fixed), but I'm sure that will come over time. It is quite functional as it is. I'm curious, though, if there are any academics on this forum that could point out features they use on the desktop versions that are not available in mobile. I'm curious to know.  

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Mike Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 25 2021 7:12 AM

Dear Frustrated,

You may have some valid points, but the tone of your post guarantees you will not be heard.  I suppose your real point was to vent your frustration.  Mission accomplished.

Blessings.

"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley

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