E Ink Tablet That Can Run Logos

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Nathan Parker | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Nov 25 2021 4:21 PM

Does anyone know of a tablet that has an E Ink screen that can run the Logos mobile app (maybe based on Android)?

I currently run Logos on an iPad mini. I like the Logos app so I can access all my Logos books, but at times, I also like the E Ink screen of devices such as the Kindle when I need to perform long-term reading, since it's more comfortable on the eyes than an iPad screen.

If there's a way to have the best of both worlds (tablet that can run the Logos app while still having an E Ink screen), that would be ideal.

Other reading apps I use that would be good to run on the tablet: Hoopla, Libby, Nook, Accordance, and ChristianBook Reader.

I'm curious as to what is out there.

Thanks!

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 25 2021 4:54 PM

Nathan Parker:
maybe based on Android

Unless you were hoping for the web app, It would only work if it were android. 

There are a number of threads about various android eInk devices, but I personally don't own any. You would want one which is good about updating to the latest versions of Android, else run into early obsolescence. 

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Luuk Dondorp | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 25 2021 9:35 PM

Nathan Parker:

Does anyone know of a tablet that has an E Ink screen that can run the Logos mobile app (maybe based on Android)?

Hi Nathan,

I am using an Onyx Book Poke2 as E-rink reader, with Android running on it. Logos mobile app works fine. Also Kindle, Kobo, Public Library app, and other Android apps. Just for reading it works great. 

In the meantime there are newer versions like Poke3 or versions with a bigger screen. Others in this forum have shared their experiences about these.

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Luuk Dondorp | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 25 2021 9:35 PM

Nathan Parker:

Does anyone know of a tablet that has an E Ink screen that can run the Logos mobile app (maybe based on Android)?

Hi Nathan,

I am using an Onyx Book Poke2 as E-rink reader, with Android running on it. Logos mobile app works fine. Also Kindle, Kobo, Public Library app, and other Android apps. Just for reading it works great. 

In the meantime there are newer versions like Poke3 or versions with a bigger screen. Others in this forum have shared their experiences about these.

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Nathan Parker | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 26 2021 11:14 AM

Good info! Two questions:

1. Do they have any models with more than 32GB of storage in this screen size range? I couldn't tell on their website.

2. How well does it handle staying up-to-date with Android releases?

Thanks!

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Luuk Dondorp | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 26 2021 12:26 PM

1. Don't think so. Successor Poke3 has 32Gb. For me more than enough, as it is just meant for reading

2. Does not. My Poke2 is A9 and Poke3 is A10. No problem for me, as I don't use it for sensitive stuff

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Mark Nolette | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 26 2021 5:02 PM

I have an Onyx Boox Note Air 2.  It is a much larger device than the Poke - 10.3 in. display, similar to an iPad - and runs on Android 11.  It has 64GB of internal storage.  

Onyx had an uneven record in the past in maintaining updates on their devices.  However, they seem to be doing much better with their newer devices.  For example, although some newer Onyx devices can ron Logos/Verbum easily, several people (myself included) experienced problems trying to run it on the Note Air 2.  I used the feedback feature to inform Onyx of this.  Someone from Onyx replied to me, saying that our app needed more Google dependencies than the device had, and that they would fix this in the next update.

I received that update today.  I have Verbum on my device, so I tried installing Logos.  It installed flawlessly.  

That's only one anecdotal example, I grant you, but it shows me that Onyx is more committed to customer service than they ere when I first bought a device from them.  

I wish Onyx offered 64GB of internal storage on all their devices and not only the larger ones.  That said, I'm very impressed with my Note Air 2.  

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Nathan Parker | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 26 2021 6:43 PM

Good info! Pretty much as long as Logos and other e-Reader apps would be supported for a while, that's what I would care about. I have an iPad when I need to run other apps, but I would be using this for reading Logos and other eBooks. 

64GB would be nice since if I needed to load up a bunch of eBooks across apps (ChristianBook and Accordance prefer the books to be downloaded instead of streamed), I'd have a little more cushion if I wanted to throw more books on there, but I guess I could overcome it by deleting books I'm not actively reading (which I did on my Kindle when I had one).

Thanks again for all the useful info!

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Luuk Dondorp | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 27 2021 12:07 AM

Hi Nathan,

If you are going to jump on it, be aware that you need to activate Google Play store first before you can download the apps. I have read in these forums that sometimes a timezone setting can prevent activating play store. Which can be quite annoying when you are not aware of this. 

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Nathan Parker | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 27 2021 5:01 PM

Good to know. I'll do more research before I decide whether to jump on it or not. It is good to know there is at least an option in case I want to venture in this direction. It's great to know you've had success with it.

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Kathleen Marie | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 28 2021 1:26 PM

There are delays when setting up the Google Playstore on Onyx Devices. Sometimes up to 24 hours.

Also never forget that restarting a machine after installing is sometimes necessary, and if there is a time delay, sometimes multiple restarts might be necessary.

These devices can do more than most people know how to do it on them. And things stop and start working after each update.

I am vision impaired. There are some books that I can read on my large screen onyx device that I cannot read on any other device. There are also plenty of books that I cannot read on it, but can read other devices. I hate owning so many devices, but as I lose more and more vision, and if I qualify for assistance in purchasing a device, I gratefully accept it. I need my Onyx when I need it.

I also use my onyx device for signing government forms that require a handwritten signature. Twice, I would have missed critical deadlines due to a worker's negligence and office shutdowns if I didn't have this device.

I cannot recommend one of these devices to everyone. I think a lot of people think they will use it more often than they do. It is awkward and slow and requires training, and it is another device to have to get up and find and turn on and keep charged and updated.

May the Lord give you wisdom on how to best prepare to accomplish the tasks He has given you to complete. God's ways leave me scratching my head.

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Nathan Parker | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 28 2021 2:29 PM

Good points. Thanks for sharing. Some good things to consider. The reason I'm interested in one is I spend way too much time starting at computer screens, even when doing lengthy reading. When I had a Kindle, it was easier on the eyes and allowed me to get away from backlit screens for a while. My only drawback of it was it was too tied into Amazon's ecosystem (obviously), and I have a major investment in Logos and other eBook platforms. Having an E Ink Tablet that runs Logos might get me away from the backlit screens for a bit and be easier on my eyes for long-term reading.

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Kathleen Marie | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 28 2021 3:43 PM

Nathan Parker:

Good points. ... Having an E Ink Tablet that runs Logos might get me away from the backlit screens for a bit and be easier on my eyes for long-term reading.

It is worth it for books that you will read cover to cover. I read fewer and fewer books cover to cover. Life just keeps getting faster and faster. I skim. I rush. I get frustrated when I want to instantly move and convert data to another device and format. I keep thinking more will help, but more seems to just to be more trouble to learn, keep track of, and maintain.

As soon as you get comfortable reading your book on the e-ink device, if it is worth reading, you want to share some part of it in some way.

I feel like I am on a hamster wheel, running faster and faster, and still getting nowhere. Is the solution to buy even more, learn even more, and work even harder? I don't know.

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Nathan Parker | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 29 2021 4:54 PM

Since I'm a PhD student with an over 30 page bibliography for my major and a 7 page bibliography for my minor and have to master my field, I don't have the liberty of not reading through the entire works. :-)

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 30 2021 12:40 PM

I reviewed the Mobiscribe a while back. https://www.kevinpurcell.org/mobiscribe-notepad-the-e-ink-notepad-android-device-review/

It's not as good as the Onyx devices.

Both will un Logos but not well.

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Luuk Dondorp | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 30 2021 1:01 PM

Kevin A. Purcell:

It's not as good as the Onyx devices.

Both will un Logos but not well

As far as I understood from your review, the MobiScribe doesn’t run Logos at all. While my Onyx Boox Poke2 runs Logos Mobile app quite well. To be sure, this is because of Android 4.4 on MobiScribe and Android 9 on Poke2

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 1 2021 5:11 AM

Right. I put it out there as a warning ... "Don't get this one"

I also had the Onyx Boox Note 2 and it ran Logs but not well. I don't think any of these are ready for prime time as Android devices.

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Kathleen Marie | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 1 2021 7:28 AM

Nathan Parker:

Since I'm a PhD student with an over 30 page bibliography for my major and a 7 page bibliography for my minor and have to master my field, I don't have the liberty of not reading through the entire works. :-)

If you need to finish books, cover to cover, rather than looking for nuggets to quote and export, then I think a large screen e-ink device is probably worth it. Just beware of the learning curve and setup time. My Onyx is an Android device, BUT it is not like any other android device that I have ever used and some of the critical settings are in the weirdest places.

Good luck!

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 1 2021 8:03 AM

Kathleen Marie:
I think a large screen e-ink device is probably worth it.

Large Screen? Why? 

I love my Kindle Paperwhite. Forget OS, Apps, Screen, etc. and just consider the physicality of the device... its size and feel is far superior to a regular iPad for "just reading." 

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Kathleen Marie | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 1 2021 8:29 AM

JT (alabama24):

Kathleen Marie:
I think a large screen e-ink device is probably worth it.

Large Screen? Why? 

I love my Kindle Paperwhite. Forget OS, Apps, Screen, etc. and just consider the physicality of the device... its size and feel is far superior to a regular iPad for "just reading." 

Some charts and images in some books don't display properly on a small screen, even if the font is set as small as possible.

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