Not Creating Citations: macOS 12.0.1 Monterey

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Jonathan Poland | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Nov 30 2021 3:48 PM

Has anyone else experienced this? When I copy and paste into Word, Logos no longer creates an automatic footnote citation. I think it happened when I updated to Monterey. My settings look correct. 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 30 2021 4:01 PM

Welcome to the forums. Can you provide a screen shot of you program settings re:footnotes? I don't have the problem on the PC. BTW it is best to post in either the desktop or the mobile forums so we know we're answering for the correct software.

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Jonathan Poland | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 30 2021 4:34 PM

Thank you,

I posted the wrong screenshot before. Let me try that again. 

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Jonathan Poland | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 30 2021 4:35 PM

Also, I am using a MacBook Pro M1 Pro 14 inch, so I'm running the desktop app. 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 30 2021 6:31 PM

I have the same settings as you, and it works for me. 

  • macOS 12.0.1
  • MacBook Air (M1 2020)
  • Logos 9.9.0
  • Word 16.55

Directions: 

  • Select text in Logos
  • In popup, click "copy"
  • In Word, paste. 

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Jonathan Poland | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 30 2021 8:08 PM

Thx man.

Still not working for me.

macOS 12.0.1

MacBook Pro M1 Pro 14 inch, 2021

Logos 9.9.0.0016

Word 16.55

I follow all those steps. shrug*

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 30 2021 8:22 PM

I'm not a Mac person but I set my options on the PC side ... is it possible to supress the citation/footnote on the Mac receiving side?

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 1 2021 4:21 AM

MJ. Smith:
is it possible to supress the citation/footnote on the Mac receiving side?

I forgot to post back... I did check on the Word side... but have no idea what I am doing. I clicked and unchecked a few things with no difference.

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Phillip J. Long | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 1 2021 7:32 AM

On November 22, there was an update (9.10 Beta 2) that "Fixed a bug that incorrectly formatted Bible citations when using the SBL 2nd Ed citation style." I am using the latest update Beta 3 (9.10.0.0007) on a MacAir using Monterey. The citations are still broken. I get author and title, pages, but no publisher information. I have tried SBL 2.0, APA7 and MLA8, all with the same result.

For example, pasting from the LBD, the SBL citation is now:

Jason C. Kuo, “Thessalonians, First Letter to the,” The Lexham Bible Dictionary.

It ought to be: 

Jason C. Kuo, “Thessalonians, First Letter to the,” ed. John D. Barry et al., The Lexham Bible Dictionary. Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press, 2016.

I notice the truncated citation is also in the information section of the Library window (where you can just copy/paste the bibliography info)

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 1 2021 8:00 AM

Phillip J. Long:
On November 22, there was an update (9.10 Beta 2) that "Fixed a bug that incorrectly formatted Bible citations when using the SBL 2nd Ed citation style." I am using the latest update Beta 3 (9.10.0.0007) on a MacAir using Monterey.

I am unsure how is this related to the OP. Am I missing something?  

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Jonathan Poland | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 1 2021 1:21 PM

I dunno. Contacted apple customer service about it, but heard nothing back yet.

I have an older MacBook Pro as well, a 13 inch from 2020, running the same OS (Monterey), and the feature is not working on that computer anymore either. So I know it's not my new Computer. That's what leads me to think it has got to be the new OS! 

But others here apparently have no problem with that OS, so I honestly don't know what is going on. 

Also, it's not working for me in Pages either (apple's version of MS Word). 

It's so weird!

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 1 2021 1:28 PM

Jonathan Poland:
Also, it's not working for me in Pages either (apple's version of MS Word).

It has never worked for me in the "new" version of Pages. By "new," I mean like 7 years ago. 

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Jonathan Poland | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 1 2021 1:43 PM

I never use Pages. Prefer MS Word all day. But I had to check just to see.

Interesting that it hasn't worked in Pages for 7 years. Wonder why. 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 1 2021 1:56 PM

Jonathan Poland:
7 years

The "7 years" is just a guess. Apple had a major update to the app when it went from an "old style," to a "new style." The new version provided a number of enhanced features... but also removed a bunch more. There use to be the ability to have special services, but some of that functionality was removed. 

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Jonathan Poland | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 1 2021 1:58 PM

I would be tempted to ask whether MS Word has done the same. Except that you have the same version of Word as I do, and you say it's working for you! 

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Pater Noster | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 1 2021 3:42 PM

I am running an Apple 1 Max, and with SBL 1st edition I get a full citation, with SBL 2nd edition I get the abbreviated style Phillip Long posted. 

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Philana R. Crouch | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 1 2021 3:50 PM

Phillip J. Long:

On November 22, there was an update (9.10 Beta 2) that "Fixed a bug that incorrectly formatted Bible citations when using the SBL 2nd Ed citation style." I am using the latest update Beta 3 (9.10.0.0007) on a MacAir using Monterey. The citations are still broken. I get author and title, pages, but no publisher information. I have tried SBL 2.0, APA7 and MLA8, all with the same result.

For example, pasting from the LBD, the SBL citation is now:

Jason C. Kuo, “Thessalonians, First Letter to the,” The Lexham Bible Dictionary.

It ought to be: 

Jason C. Kuo, “Thessalonians, First Letter to the,” ed. John D. Barry et al., The Lexham Bible Dictionary. Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press, 2016.

I notice the truncated citation is also in the information section of the Library window (where you can just copy/paste the bibliography info)

Thanks for reporting this bug. I've created a case for it.

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Adam Borries (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 1 2021 4:00 PM

Jonathan Poland:

Has anyone else experienced this? When I copy and paste into Word, Logos no longer creates an automatic footnote citation. I think it happened when I updated to Monterey. My settings look correct. 

Mac's system security settings sometimes prevents this from working properly. 

Try this:   

  1. Go to System Preferences>Security & Privacy>Accessibility 
  2. Click the Lock icon and enter password.
  3. Look for Logos in the list; if for some reason it's not there, click the + button.
  4. Check the box for Logos.

I think it wouldn't hurt to make sure Word has a check box as well. 

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Jonathan Poland | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 1 2021 4:41 PM

Thank you Adam! That fixed it! :) :) :) 

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Jonathan Poland | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 1 2021 4:44 PM

So happy that's fixed.

Interestingly, the boxes were already checked, but I still had to "add" them (by pressing the + button and searching for them in applications) before it worked. 

Thanks again! :)

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