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Mozzie | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Jan 23 2022 7:35 AM

I’m wanting to make a collection to include the following:

Type:biographies

Type:church history

Subject:fathers of the church

I’m currently using the string: Type:("Church History","Biography") and my results match what my library reflects for these two types. However, I can’t seem to find a method to include the subject field ”fathers of the church” to this collection.

Is this even possible?

If so, will any duplicates possibly be added and need to be placed in the “drag resources or collections to subtract here”?

One last question, I noticed there is a subject named “none” with several entries yet have types assigned. Should I assume I need to check this “none” area for possible resources not recognized in making various collections?

tia

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Roy | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 24 2022 10:49 AM

Try this...

Type:("Church History","Biography") AND Subject:"fathers of the church"


This was posted by mistake, before it was ready, see below...

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 24 2022 11:27 AM

Or, depending on your intention:

Type:("Church History","Biography") OR Subject:"fathers of the church"

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Roy | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 24 2022 11:27 AM

Here is something to note which I just learned a few days ago.

The "Subject:" field is a Subject/Description that the Library of Congress applies to the resource and NOT what Logos/Faithlife would say it is.

If you have a resource that you believe should be in that subject category and it isn't you would need to add a "mytag:" to that resource (the tag name is your choice, for this example let's call it "mytag:Fathers")

Then modify the search string to read 

(Subject:"fathers of the church", mytag:Fathers) AND (Type:Monograph,type:Biography)

Note, I changed the Type from "Church History" to Monograph because playing around I found NO resources with a Type=Church History, but did find a slew of resources with that bend in Monographs.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 24 2022 11:29 AM

Roy:
Note, I changed the Type from "Church History" to Monograph because playing around I found NO resources with a Type=Church History, but did find a slew of resources with that bend in Monographs.

Resources incorrectly typed as Monographs should be reported at feedback.faithlife.com for Kyle to fix.

Please use descriptive thread titles to attract helpful posts & not waste others' time. Thanks!

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Mozzie | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 24 2022 11:46 AM

I copied and pasted the string you provided and my hits were reduced from 178 resources to 3. My guess is, that the search criteria limited results only to those that satisfied all three conditions as all three conditions appeared in the results of one field or another.

However, all hope is not lost. When I subbed OR for AND:

 Type:("Church History","Biography") OR Subject:"fathers of the church"

  I then received more hits (271) which included my original ones plus those types and titles which contained ‘Fathers of the church’ in the subject field. I will likely need to manually filter the new ones as it now includes 12 various ‘types’ (bible, ancient manuscript/translation, lexicon, monograph and such) which shouldn’t be too difficult.

 I love the filter and search capabilities but it can be a beast to think like a computer at times.

 Tx for responses

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 24 2022 7:00 PM

Roy:

If you have a resource that you believe should be in that subject category and it isn't you would need to add a "mytag:" to that resource (the tag name is your choice, for this example let's call it "mytag:Fathers")

Then modify the search string to read 

(Subject:"fathers of the church", mytag:Fathers)

Library (collection) filter for Subjects OR myTag can be expanded:

(Subj:Fathers AND Subj:(Apostolic,church,Desert)) OR myTag:Fathers

FYI: filtering for Subj:Fathers found several Subjects: "Fathers of the church", "Apostolic Fathers", "Desert Fathers", fictional Fathers, and founding fathers.

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